Anyone know an addon manager that lets you do what curse used to let you do?

Shocking is all I can say. D:

Scrimpy havn't you figured it out that you don't matter at all lol..but keep on hanging around your good for laughs.

Well curse how about it. you were quick to point out how much you lost and point fingers and WM and now that you forced people to pay for normal download speeds you use to offer for free. whats your sales at how many idiots are paying for this crap.

I'm also interested in how your premium service is taking off.....

Bye bye Curse Client.

It takes me less time to manually update my addons rather than using Curse Client to update 1 and 1 addon at a time.

I must say, you placed a big bump in the road for yourselves

so how is your client selling curse ? care to share with us some sales figures ?

well i managed to find a way around half of curses "premium serivce". i blocked all the ads in thier client and it tripled my download speed. hahaha fuck you curse. (and btw you cant sue me cuz i didnt disassemble or modify your code to do this :P***)

First of all: I disagree to pay for a thing I don't need, only thing I would need is All addons in One-Click update, but you don't offer this thing only, so no way.

Charging fees for "service" is ok, but when I think I will donate for an addon, I do it directly to the author, not through a programm, where everyone is rewarded (Sorry, some authors I don't want to donate to, some I want.).

Ad-Free? Give me more flashy adds. I'm on the internet since 1995, and I can life with flashy adds and so on, no problem here with that.

Support Curse? Ok, would do it, but in my way with a donation, not with a fee.

Beta keys? Well, the Battlefield Heroes Giveaway is a good example, you get keys everywhere on the net for free, even on the Battlefield site directly, so no real argument. The Premium only keys, well, if tzhere is no beta I can reach I don't mind it, because games with no open beta are not really worth playing it direct on release, and mostly I'm right with my opinion for my flavour of games.

Faster Addon download? An argument, but no real argument, I'm on a 100Mbit cable connection and tell you what? I have time, speed it meaningless for me.

Automatic addon updates? Sorry, did that 1 time, after that I had to download everything manual to get back on working versions, no need for this.

Unique avatars? Common, this is no reason for a fee. Would be like "Get Premium to be allowed to write comments."

These are only my opinions, I think, some may apply to your opinions, some not, like always.

Pointing to the Client wars:

Hm, very interesting point with WoWmatrix and bandwidth, because when I "leech" direct off curse.com or use WoWmatrix, both methods suck the same amount of bandwidth. - So this point is destroyed. WoWmatrix, doing by hand or CurseClient, all 3 methods leech the same amount of bandwidth.

About the ad-revenue, well, this is the most important part today, and I think, yes, it is one of the reason, wowmatrix is under attack, but hell, ever thought about all the Firefox users out there with AdBlock! Plus with Dr. Evils Filterlist? ^^ Those will never see an ad on this site. Think this is bigger loss at all.

For the CurseClient: Well it works, but is not my flavour, I loved the old WoWAce client and some of the WoWAce community developed updaters (There was one similar to wowmatrix, but you had to manage the sites where to get the updates by hand.

The old WoWinterface updater is not perfect but did the job like the new CurseClient.

The be clear, I never used WoWmatix, nor will I, but to stay clear again, I will never pay for something I do not need, I only need one option, and 3$ per month is ok, but not for only multidownload, and such few features, I know better Premium sites for same amount of cash with more and better features.

Just my 2 cents.

PS: Sorry, for my bad Englisch, its not my native language.

Yes file a complaint with blizzard i'm sure they'll care.  Only thing they wanted is that addons could be obtained free, and you can do that with or without the updater.

oh no complaints are piling up, what do they say? "Hey i'm to goddamn ignorant and lazy to DL my own addons this isnt fair!?"

How does curse get around the blizzard policy of not charging for addons??  ohhhh....because they are only charging for ACCESS to the addons....not the addons themselves....or i should say...."better access".

Isnt that the same model that carbonite was using....ie...here's a free version...but to get "better" benefits pay for the "premium" version.  And carbonite had to stop that.

I am registering a complaint with Blizzard.

From inside my office Alot of complaints are starting to pile up.

How does curse get around the blizzard policy of not charging for addons??  ohhhh....because they are only charging for ACCESS to the addons....not the addons themselves....or i should say...."better access".

Isnt that the same model that carbonite was using....ie...here's a free version...but to get "better" benefits pay for the "premium" version.  And carbonite had to stop that.

I am registering a complaint with Blizzard.  

It is ridiculous for some websites to band together, complain about a program that does what theirs couldn't do, and then fix their version and offer it for a "small fee" with of course a stripped down version for free.  Then to "sell it" they "offer" 20% kickback to addon authors.

If there is any wording in the agreements between addon authors and curse that indicates they must ONLY host their addons on a "curse approved" site, then that constitutes Curse charging for addons because they are deliberately restricting access and fronting themselves as the sole method of access for those addons....even if it is in a "premium" mode.

Carbonite is the example and they had to cease doing it.

Another angle:

Amazing how wowmatrix can offer a 1step update for FREE....but curse has to CHARGE for that very same capability....and the only way that they even get away with it is because they offer kickbacks to the addon authors to ONLY list on their site.

So here is what it looks like to me.   Curse and a couple other websites were loosing "valuable" ad revenue because their website hits were going down.  One reason for this was because someone built a program that automated what i would end up having to spend alot of time doing manually, and because the program worked better than the curse client. So rather than build a better product and compete with Wowmatrix on a level playing field.....they decided to gang up and badmouth wowmatrix.  The lies that have been spread about wowmatrix being behind spreading keyloggers and such are just despicable, especially since curse and other sites have had their fair share of those very same problems.

The "you never know where wowmatrix is getting the addons from"....or the "they make tons of changes not authorized by the addon authors" are proven to be disingenuous because then curse says...."oh we have to block them because they are leeching our bandwidth"....and "they have adds on their website that are stealing our revenue"

I would say......pick one side of the argument and stick with it.  If they are "leeching bandwidth".....then anyone who downloads addons is guilty of "leeching bandwidth"....and oh wait....that means that wowmatrix would have to be getting the addons from CURSE to begin with and not modifying them.  If people go to another website, because it works better...even if its not as "flashy", that doesnt mean the site is stealing ad revenue.

Bottom line, wowmatrix built a great tool to easily update addons that WORKED, whereas, the curse client sucked and hardly anyone used it.

In the end, it really isnt about the "small fee"....its about the principle of how Curse and some other websites have dealt with this.

Curse has been a great site.....seems they just got a little to big for their britches and don't want to play well with others.....so they are taking their ball and bat and pouting.

Ok, so they added a few features that you now have to pay a really small fee a month. OMG people are paying $5 and up a day or more for cigerettes, and here are complaints that a site is now charging to do certain things. Not to mention that we pay a monthly fee to play WoW, and I've talked to some people that pay for several accounts for themselves. Whats another $3 to make your gaming experience a little better? It is still free, but YOU have to take the time to update them your self, 10 maybe 20 mins? They are just trying to make a few extra bucks to make their site better.

in the end none of these sites win , curse.com and wowui have hurt themselfs bigtime over this and anyone can see people dont and wont forget the way curse messed up everyones addons soon as curse shut the door on WM like a group of little boys saying no girls allowed it runied all respect alot of people had for this site and now that pretty much everyone knows curse is all about how much money can we make from this . its only a matter of time before they shut the servers down and close the site, you can not run this site off of charging for faster speed downloads of addons when you cripple / throttle the normal speed to Very low . lol what child is running curse.com ?

www.wowinsider.com/.../curse-release-premium-add-on-download-client

mmmm, alot more people don't like what curse did on there.

Odd that it took WM over 3 weeks to craft that nice work of fiction to try to save their butts, and still have provided no way of interacting with the community, yet Curse and WoWI have been communicating and explaining their side of this since it first started.

I thought the whole Curse and WoW Interface vs WoWMatrix scuffle was over, but the people at WoWMatrix have just fired back an "FAQ" giving their side of the story. I put FAQ in quotes because I'm not sure these are frequently asked questions so much as questions Matrix frequently wants to answer, but that's OK. I like the format.

Here is the situation as they put it: The Matrix people are respecting Curse/WI's demands that they quit using Curse/WI bandwidth, so as of now you can only get addons through WM that are hosted on the WM servers. They are hosting addons on their servers that the authors asked to be hosted there, or that are distributed under a free license (such as the GPL) that allows such re-hosting.

And now it starts to get contentious. Curse and WoW Interface claimed that WM was almost completely unresponsive to any kind of communication they tried to make, which is what forced them to take the drastic measures they took. WM, on the other hand, claim that Curse refused to negotiate and instead just tried to buy Matrix outright, whereas WM was trying to compensate for bandwidth, figure out how to use less bandwidth, and show Curse ads.

Basically, WM's side of the story is that they tried everything they could to work with WoW Interface and Curse in order to provide a single solution that was best for the user community - to quote them directly, "both Curse and WoWInterface are more concerned about their own profits than working with us to help better serve the gaming community."

This is, again, directly contradictory to what the Curse/WoWI release said, which is that Matrix showed very little interest in working with them, making only a token lowball offer to compensate for bandwidth, and just wanted to go on leeching, basically. Obviously at least one side is misrepresenting facts, although it's impossible to say which one.

On a final note, if you want to help the WoWMatrix folks, they encourage you to submit any addons that you want added that are under a free license, so that's one thing you can do to build their database.

Not shocking to see a curse-employee try so hard to defend a shitty and greedy "service". Good luck trying to convince people they should pay for what programs like wowace used to offer for free - wrapped into an even worse code.

"The % of the users in this thread that have left bad feedback, coupled with the % of users on WoWInsider that have left poor feedback does not represent a majority."

Perhaps not, but it gives you a general idea of what the thoughts of this move is. If you are too affraid to admit that - then you have my half-hearted "good luck". It can only go downhill from this point of for Curse.

"You can easily assume that - since most of the comments in this thread is negative, most of the comments on WoW Insider article (www.wowinsider.com/.../wowmatrix-responds-to-curse-and-wow-interface) is negative - user response is extremely bad..."

The % of the users in this thread that have left bad feedback, coupled with the % of users on WoWInsider that have left poor feedback does not represent a majority. It does not constitute a representative sample at all and any assumption that it does is based on your own bias and not on any factual information.

If I were a complete moron who argued by pulling statements out of thin air, I could say: Have you considered that the feedback in this thread and on other sites represents a substantial portion of the complaints? In which case, there are millions of users beyond that that do not have a problem with the arrangement. As it stands, I'm not a moron and I'm not going to make a statement like that as if it were fact, as it really isn't :-)

"If the answer is yes, you are in violation of some of Blizzard's new regulations."

20% of all money made through the premium service goes back to addon authors. This isn't against Blizzards ToCs either. If Curse were charging you to access the addons, it would be. As it stands, you can still access all of the addons without paying anything (ie. for free).