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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://my.curse.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Curse and WoWInterface working together to help protect our authors and other site-users</title><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx</link><description>Recently Curse and WoWInterface got together to come up with a solution for an ongoing problem. The problem in question is WowMatrix. We, Curse and WowInterface, have gotten together and between us we believe we may have found a solution to prevent them</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP1 (Build: 30619.63)</generator><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#561055</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:47:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:561055</guid><dc:creator>myrroddin</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Gregt44, If you look at the sys reqs for v3 of the client, you may find it will not work with your hardware. However, the v4 client, currently in closed beta, addresses compatibility, and other issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Kaelten&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve started limited testing already. &amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;ll be expanding it out further as time goes by. &amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;ve had to push full open beta back a few weeks and will be inviting more people to test it as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The v4 Mac client isn&amp;#39;t yet feature complete and as a result I don&amp;#39;t want to just post a link and have it there for people to download.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=561055" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#560934</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:34:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:560934</guid><dc:creator>gregt44</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Not really interested in philosophical discussion about who is right or wrong here, because to be honest I have no way of knowing. What I do know is curse client doesnt work and I dont understand that. Bottom line the add on goes to the desktop of mac not in add ons folder and moving it, (not that i should have to ) doesnt work&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=560934" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#493262</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:31:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:493262</guid><dc:creator>airddragon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I know this story is a as dead as dead gets, but simply put, WoWMatrix is a thief. &amp;nbsp;Rather than host the files themselves, at which point they must then pay for bandwidth, they steal links to other sites. &amp;nbsp;You did that to me and I owned that site? &amp;nbsp;Better expect to PAY the bill yourself. &amp;nbsp;Because I&amp;#39;m coming for you, don&amp;#39;t care where you are in the world, your paying me for that lost revenue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as they then download one copy from Curse/WoWUI and then claim &amp;quot;okay there see not stealing your bandwidth&amp;quot; argument. &amp;nbsp;Sure that is fine and good, so long as the original author does not care about it being hosted there. &amp;nbsp;Original author says get it off your site, you comply. &amp;nbsp;Nuff said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WoWMatrix is a program made to STEAL from other sites. &amp;nbsp;I do not condone it or accept it. &amp;nbsp;If I was any party involved, feel lucky I am not, I would have hunted them down and sued their pants off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=493262" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#482537</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:13:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:482537</guid><dc:creator>GrogT</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, seems to me that options to achieve a win-win-situation were carelessly ignored, right from the beginning. I honestly do not understand why. If Curse and WoWInterface wanted to make some money with advertising, why you guys didn’t communicate this to WoWmatrix straight up? With that much programmers involved there should be a way to get the ad on the screen of the fan while downloading with WoWMatrix. Could have been selling argument for you guys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. &amp;nbsp;One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sincerely &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a user &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=482537" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#482535</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:11:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:482535</guid><dc:creator>GrogT</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, seems to me that options to achieve a win-win-situation were carelessly ignored, right from the beginning. I honestly do not understand why. If Curse and WoWInterface wanted to make some money with advertising, why you guys didn’t communicate this to WoWmatrix straight up? With that much programmers involved there should be a way to get the ad on the screen of the fan while downloading with WoWMatrix. Could have been selling argument for you guys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. &amp;nbsp;One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sincerely &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a user &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=482535" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#482422</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:06:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:482422</guid><dc:creator>Scalebane</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;fight the powah scrimpy lmao&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=482422" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#482275</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 06:24:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:482275</guid><dc:creator>scrimpy32</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Curse.com I now get all my addons directly from the addons author and will never support curse/ace/wowui ever again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wake up people you dont see what curse is doing &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=482275" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#482113</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:38:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:482113</guid><dc:creator>suckitnerds</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for making it so much harder to update my addons. I just want a nice easy way to update all of my addons. I had that with WowMatrix. You killed it. I&amp;#39;m still downloading the same addons, from the same source, but now it&amp;#39;s much more difficult and takes far longer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guess what your move did? It hurt YOUR users. Me! My opinion of Curse and WowInterface has really sunk. And pretty much ever WoW player I know feels the same way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=482113" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#481176</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:10:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:481176</guid><dc:creator>calgard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;CURSE is the biggest ripoff in resources on a pc and the one ting I find is funny is that they wont respond to &amp;nbsp;the PODCAST &amp;quot; The Instance &amp;quot; to back up there claim against wowmatrix or even go on there... all I see is CURSE being a lil sidewalk whore and yelling and screaming since it can&amp;#39;t be the only one doing the addon site... &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=481176" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479628</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:51:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479628</guid><dc:creator>flamewalker04</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt; lee200082 said &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;05-19-2009 2:03 PM (6 hours, 47 minutes ago)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Curse needs to produce and implement some kind of landing page for first time access (cookie based maybe?) to get users to agree to the terms and conditions before accesing the site. &amp;nbsp;This would then give them a legal recourse to sue WM if they continue for the bandwidth costs incurred.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;------------------&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not really... by using the site you agree to the terms of service, linked at the bottom of every page. They certainly could pretty easily have a case against them if they wanted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=479628" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479624</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:42:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479624</guid><dc:creator>Darkclouder</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You guys (everyone) Really need to stop whining about this. You are using a ,otherwise free, Service of downloading add-ons off their site, and complain when they ask you to buy the premium package so they can get the cash they need to pay for things. And as you see they are working diligently to get a website ,called in the WoW world, Ninja out of service. In turn this helps us with downloading on major patch days. (1 week to complete my add ons) And I know there is more then 1 or 2 people here posting (whining) about paying a premium for a service that they use (and sits for hours till update is done). When in turn they are gonna make your downloads and experience better. This is a business believe it or not. So L2Use duck tape on your mouth when you are gonna say something retarded. If you have a issue with what I said, then you should just turn off your computer and never turn it on again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(yes my English is bad but at least I made my point)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=479624" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479471</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:27:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479471</guid><dc:creator>goamer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;All you managed to do was make updating my addons harder. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=479471" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479465</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:14:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479465</guid><dc:creator>halaa</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Himehroyd,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think CNN has a &amp;#39;cap&amp;#39; on how much bandwidth they can use? &amp;nbsp;Or MicroSoft? &amp;nbsp;Or Apple? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll just call you an idiot now, since you chose to call me one and speak out your ass about a topic you know just enough about to be considered a moron. &amp;nbsp;Now go play with your little personal web site service and leave real web sites to the big boys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;____________________________________________________________________________&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you seem to be more of a bigger dumb ass then the rest, you think curse can compaete to cnn or microsoft your answwer was a very stupid one which shows me how lil ur i.q really is, you think curse is a company, curse is nothing more then prob one to 3 people running it, and your not part of there team are you, so why do you take up for this so called company that you seem that can make more or the same amount of money as cnn, or even microsoft.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;belive you moron if they exceeded there bandwith like they claim they would have been shut down, dont belive me ask any one with a higher iq then your&amp;#39;s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and i see you have iq of ted turner where the big boys play, wait wait didnt he sell almost his **** inclucdong cough cough cnn, becuase he wasnt a big boy where you like to play *** and ball&amp;#39;s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by you moron **** g o t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hahaha last time i post in this shitty forum, and you can talk back i allow it but do a search next time so you can a better i.q then what you have now plz plz plz have one better then dear ole ted turner&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=479465" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479413</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:34:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479413</guid><dc:creator>riceisnice</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking for myself , all I really want is a nice, easy reliable way to get addons. I don&amp;#39;t want to see anyone&amp;#39;s right infringed on, or people to not receive their dues for work well done........&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I just don&amp;#39;t see that with Curse. If you can give me a list of &amp;quot;unidentified items&amp;quot; why can you not seek these out and host them? I have the addons because they will make my gameplay easier/better, you claim you are doing this service for the community...well the community wants these addons whether you can identify them or not =\ &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is about money, money, money , money...and yes people don&amp;#39;t mind paying for services when they get what they want..but we aren&amp;#39;t...for a lot of addons,ease of use etc. With all this money coming in, now that you started charging to even come CLOSE to WM&amp;#39;s ease of use, could you not assign some staff to look into these &amp;quot;unidentified addons&amp;quot; and ...well identify them =\ You can find them with ease at www.wowmatrix.com ... I&amp;#39;m no &amp;quot;pro WM&amp;quot; advocate, I just want my damn addons in the simplest,quickest way and get on with playing my game. If you guys could come close to them, this whole topic wouldn&amp;#39;t even be an issue..though so far as I can tell, in any area to do come close, you charge us for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can only assume the &amp;quot;premium account&amp;quot; is only the first step and you are hoping that by attemtping to alienate WM you will eventualy slam us with a regular monthly fee with no exceptions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, I use curse client , but ONLY because I HAVE to..no other reason , because you don&amp;#39;t offer any other reasons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are like the rich kid who bought up the neighbourhood and are forcing all the kids to play with you......and kids being kids, we will..but we really don&amp;#39;t like you much =\ and we&amp;#39;ll always be waiting for the you to drop the inevitable bomb on us and make us pay or no services. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have made something that should not have been public, very public by this very topic alone, I thin you expected a big old bandwagon of people to hop on and say &amp;quot;yeah they deserve their money for work well done&amp;quot;...but fact is, we see its work-----half done, and you are charging for it =\&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is akin to a store buying the BigMac&amp;#39;s special sauce......making their own burgers,which leaves a foul taste in our mouths.........and charging more for them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I , like many people who have posted , will continue to use the curse client............but only as long as I absolutely have to. And unless it is drasticly improved, would never ever consider paying your premium.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://my.curse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=479413" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title /><link>http://my.curse.com/blogs/curse-en-news/archive/2009/04/13/437537.aspx#479353</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:03:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">045f8e2a-3b25-43b2-9769-9c60de2974e3:479353</guid><dc:creator>lee200082</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;As I see it Curse as a &amp;quot;Company&amp;quot; has a choice to make.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes they can and I believe have taken steps to prevent WM&amp;#39;s unauthorised access to their bandwidth. &amp;nbsp;Like any website Curse is entitled to restrict access as they see fit in order to protect their bandwidth and give the vast majority of their users the best service possible for whatever money they have coming in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition to this Curse should have server logs showing WM&amp;#39;s access, the files accessed, dates, times, etc which they could use to mount a civil court case against the owners of WM in order to recoup their bandwidth costs as a result of the unauthorised usage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem here is that since Curse do not force users/visitors to the site to agree to any kind of usage agreement prior to being alowed to access anything on the site there is no legally binding agreement for them to be held to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Curse needs to produce and implement some kind of landing page for first time access (cookie based maybe?) to get users to agree to the terms and conditions before accesing the site. &amp;nbsp;This would then give them a legal recourse to sue WM if they continue for the bandwidth costs incurred.&lt;/p&gt;
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