I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

iZ3d review

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:09:02 GMT

feel free to reply with any questions you may have for me, I will be checking up on this blog regularily

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

thewarface — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:09:01 GMT

Wow.....sounds like an interesting thing to try out.

I'm gonna work up some money ,birthday next month :), and see how it works.

I saw you say "guild" in there.....does this mean it works with WoW?

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

apostolosapok — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:09:00 GMT

I cant understand is it working with all video cards cause i remember some years ago there where 3D video cards especially for this

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:59 GMT

Absolutely, WoW is the game I play most. WoW looks incredible in 3D especially gives you a great advantage in pvp when you see your enemies clearly raised out of the background. It's something you just have to try. Raids and other indoor environments give you the best 3D effects, you'll notice textures in the game that you've never paid attention to.

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:58 GMT

It works with any video card and does NOT require any special equipment. Your video card does have to have two monitor outputs however as the screen uses two seperate inputs. Also you might notice a SLIGHT drop in frames per second. This is how they make it work, there are two seperate screens in the monitor that are overlayed and differently polarized. The top one is only visible to one eye while the bottom one is only visible to your other eye. In real life this is how depth perception is created, since our eyes are slightly spaced appart each eye sees the world from a slightly different angle. Our brain translates this into one 3D image. The iZ3D monitor simply gives your brain two images to translate in the same way that your eyes normally do.

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

avalance — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:57 GMT

is there any chance you could devise a way to "install" these glasses on a video or web cam and post a small video of the monitor performing, or am i asking too much?

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:56 GMT

I sure could do that, however all you will see is two spaced appart images of the same thing. A video taken of steroscopic material will not be able to show you what the 3D effect looks like because you will see the video using both of your eyes. The 3D effect comes from each of your eyes seeing something different and your brain doing what it normaly does in real life and combining the two 2D images into one solid 3D image. That's half the problem about commiting $700 into something you realy have no idea how it will come out. In my case it was a leap of faith worth every penny, however. I'm also currently working on making a little headtracking device for the monitor that will allow you to look around 3D objects by moving your head. To see how that works go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:55 GMT

Here's a picture that shows you what it looks like:
http://techdigest.tv/3D_monitor.html

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

mgunnett — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:54 GMT

Lol This looks cool. Only thing I reall can complain about is the pricetag. Being a broke college student doesn't help either lol.

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

frumpyandy — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:53 GMT

from your description, it only works with DirectX 9 and 10 (with some errors in DX10).

This excludes (for the time being, at least) Linux users from being able to use this monitor. As far as I know, DirectX has yet to be properly implemented on a Linux system (for games, at least), and OpenGL is the system used by most Linux games to handle DirectX type effects.

I'm not sure how Macs deal with DirectX, but I just figured I'd point it out, since you mention software/hardware compatibility, but nothing about OS compatibility.

I'm not a Linux pro, but I use it exclusively on my home computer, so I quickly bottled up my excitement about 1/3 of the way through your post (where you mention DirectX and OpenGL compatibility).

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:52 GMT

You're right, linux will have problems with this monitor as will mac. It does support dx8 as well as 9 and 10. There is a openGL beta driver available but it's not entirely worked out yet. As of right now I wouldn't recommend you buy one of these if you run linux exclusively even though you can make it work you'll end up with a headache most likely before you come to enjoy it. Most of the gamer community runs some form of win32 though so obviously just like any other sensible gaming company their focus is based around windows. It's just one of the pains you have to endure when you choose to go with linux. I'm not knocking linux btw, one of my machines runs on slackware11 it's just not my gaming machine.

If I may make a recommendation to you however; use LILO to dual boot linux and windows. Windows will recognize neither your linux nor your swap partition but linux will have no problems accessing your NTFS partition. What version of X are you runing on if I may ask? If you need more info on how to get your machine to dual boot feel free to ask, I don't mind helping.

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

frumpyandy — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:51 GMT

I run Fedora Core 7. I keep meaning to upgrade to 8, but I plan to wait until I have some new hardware to install along with it.

I have no interest in dual-booting Windows, or having Windows anywhere near my machine. I'll gain interest in this monitor if it develops good OpenGL support, but until then, it's just another slave to the Microsoftopoly. I can't hold it against the makers of the monitor, really, as it's the most profitable way to go (for now), but they're missing out on my business for the time being. Eventually cross-platform capability will take precedence over cow-towing to the biggest proprietary name. It won't be today or tomorrow, but at some point :)

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Simulo — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:50 GMT

hmm, sounds like this monitor attempts to do head tracking, which is cool and all; but the games need to support it first before a monitor like this can truly shine.

now...for all you who say "i play in 3D" bull...you play 2D, don't believe me...watch the below:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ (third film)

now come back and tell me your monitor does 3D

*not responsible for lost jaws due to "jaw-dropping" :P

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

Art0ck — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:49 GMT

No, headtracking is not at all part of this monitor. Headtracking only would work for one person viewing the screen, and would surrender it's illusion the second you stop moving your head to the techno beat you must be playing in the background at all times ;p, this technology does not share those limitations of headtracking. Also this technology is compatible with any game that uses dx8 through 10 and unlike headtracking does not require the software to be coded to work with it. I did some experimenting with headtracking and this monitor in combination however and the results are simply amazing. With headtracking I can look around 3d objects ;p. This technology imitates the actual depth perception of the human brain by supplying two images. Headtracking can be done on one 2d monitor and achieves a similar illusion however does not actually raise objects out infront of the monitor nor does it allow you to view into the screen. I've seen johnny's stuff and am as impressed as you are. My headtracking device was created in his immage but displayed on my 3d monitor instead of a regular 2d display like he uses. It's what you see on his website but takes the illusion a step further.
By the way if you go a little bit further down this post you will see me commenting on johnnys head tracking device several times and even find a link to the exact video you were referencing.

I most certainly DO play in 3D and I recommend you read before shooting off your mouth.

I play in 3D!! (iZ3D review)

FranticFragster — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:48 GMT

People had asked if your new 3-D monitor experience was producing headaches. I am guessing they were thinking 'eyestrain', or something similar. But it occurs to me that what you describe more accurately produces a 'natural' experience for the eye muscles and movement of same. Perhaps this technology will be the first step in reducing or eliminating the gross eye fatigue and vision impairment that comes from many hours at a traditional monitor?

On the rare occasion I get to indulge with marathon WoW gameplay (6 hours or more), I know I pay for it with fuzzy vision for a time as my eyes re-adjust to the real world again. We weren't meant to keep our eyes focused at a fixed distance endlessly.

Hmmm......maybe the 3-D monitor could be prescribed by physician as neccessary for good eye health? <grin> Ah, wishful thinking!

From your description, I'll be making my next big investment in the 3-D monitor rather than the next gen of processor/chipsets.......for correct me if I'm wrong......haven't developers been creating three dimensional worlds in gameplay for many years, that were then depicted on our two dimensional displays? That is what I've always understood the principles to be behind Poser, 'skins', and the 'layers' of a game terrain environment.

As to the cynics who deride your experience of not being true 3-D.....I just had to laugh! Having grown up with my grandparents stereo-optic picture viewer, played with a Viewmaster and it's projector (how's that for the way-back machine, eh?), enjoyed my father's stereo slides from the 1950's, witnessed the opening of Disney's Haunted Mansion and its ground-breaking 3-D effects, plus got to marvel at that cool thing called a hologram in the late 70's/early 80's......I guess I feel sorry for kids that grew up in a 'flat world', and think they are pioneers in Depth Perception! Maybe they were born after the movie 'Brainstorm' was made?