2 years ago the horde was invinceble they could not win an wsg ab and the rest.... and if they did lose it was becuz they were all like lvl 24 25ish 33 36 ish u know what i mean vs all lvl 29 or 39... but after 2 years i think there is an shift... all the players who played horde just PvP and lvld... so they were imba at lvl 70 with pvp... (still are) but the horde got tired of the horde... and went 2 alliance... made there main there ... and made some twinks.... so all that are left on the horde are the noobs who once were alliance and thought 2 pwn when they turn horde. this is the talw of wow after the burning crusade came. but still the horde will rise once more with Wotlk becuz hey whats an death knight ... if not the undead?? mwhahaha

it all depends on the server and battlegroup you are in

i roll horde and i noticed that alliance wins most like you guys said because you guys always turtling specially on WSG. I play the bracket 30-39 and 40-49 and i win 4 out of 5 of a time in a daily basis. AB i admit ally is more organized but horde wins if we wanted to. Alliance wins the 10-19 bracket and 20-29 bracket but not all. I have played in WSG on my ally(my first toon in kaz'goroth) and i noticed that when something goes wrong they start to blame each other so i changed to horde and do what we want to do.

doesn't matter if Blizzard supplies something or not, bottom line is that people have to cooperate and do their part which usually means letting someone centrally call the shots. How many are willing to let that happen?

yeah cant win coz they are too busy chasing alliance around for the kills... horde need to work as a team and fight at nodes etc.. i play on bloodlust battlegroup and horde completely suck at ab/eots

I think Blizzard needs to have a longer wait time in an area that is structly for the Horde and Allies where they can plan their assault out. People do not always know what job they should undertake when going into these things and what often happens is chaos. If everyone could enter one large chatroom area prior to the assault everyone could be assigned a task and argue what their objective is and what they need and at least that way everyone could have an idea of what is going to happen who is going to defend what. Does anyone else agree with this. I try to talk to people before the start to see what the plan is but no one really knows and people scatter. I can always tell when we are going to loose a BG. As soon as I see people scatter in 10 different directions its a loss. You obviously need to attack with numbers and a simple strategy is all that is needed to win. It would be nice to have a frontal assualt planned out some defenders here and there at key spots and a nice flank attack sometimes. Ya know change things up. I agree more strategy needs to be implemented some way through blizzard being the mediator of how it could be divulged by us.

I could post a similar thread about ally on my Battlegroup. Horde win almost everything except AV, and even that is now a 50/50 toss up

As a horde i've been in mostly winning EoTs games.. but i hate going in AB because yeh, horde have no idea how to defend.. they are more interested in chasing ally's around for the kills, 3 bases, 5 per base, not rocket science!

how do i post blogs like u ?

yeh horde still wins, but majority of the time its a loss.. everytime we win its by pure luck that they alliance has tard's running the battle's or by attacking w/o defense will hold them off.. RARELY though.. and for some reason they like arguing amongst themselves instead of working as a team

I would like to know which Realm your on, cause on Hellscream horde has there way with ally.

"horde also doesn't know how to defend!!! the day some of the mighty horde starts to learn how to defend, then maybe, just maybe, we can win a raid or two.. its ridiculous, we get piss all honor for losing!!!" ^^^^^^^^We have a winner!^^^^^^^ This is correct. Horde doesn't defend. If horde would actually look at our defenses and use them we'd win at least 1/2 the time.. which is 49% more often than we do now.

horde also doesnt know how to defend!!! the day some of the mighty horde starts to learn how to defend, then maybe, just maybe, we can win a raid or two.. its rediculous, we get piss all honour for losing!!!