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Bongos3

Yeah, I've not posted in a good while. Here's the status on my stuff:

Bongos

I'm working on Bongos3 now. Most of you should know this due to the betas being out. The goal with Bongos3 is to do two things: Fix anything broken in Bongos2 that could not be done without redoing profiles, and to implement variable length bars.

To do the first, I've done the following:

  • Stances are now done via [bonusbar:x] conditions. Druids lose the ability to have their bars change in say, travel form, but stances should all finally work out of the box, no matter what forms you know or do not know. It also fixes Shadowform on priests to not switch your bar if you're in Spirit of Redemption. I didn't actually intend on doing this, but it just happened that Blizzard added enough to the API to make it possible.
  • Bindings for action buttons are now done via binding overrides. Basically, this means your action bar bindings now sit on top of your other bindings, and as a plus, are attached to profiles. This fixes a very common problem with Bongos2: "My bindings don't work when I switch to cat/stealth/berserker!"
  • The possess bar is implemented. For people who have been using Bongos for a long time, the possess bar is a feature Blizzard added in 2.3 that switches your main bar when you well, possess something. You can see it in action if you do the kara chess, cast eyes of the beast, or in certain raid encounters.
  • Bars are now created using a new painting system. Enter configuration mode, and alt drag on an empty space to start creating a bar. The biggest problem with this system is that you're still limited to 120 buttons overall, but I really do not think the API is quite ready for me to implement infinite action buttons.

The following two things were derived from me implementing variable length bars

  • User defined show states. Its now possible to make a bar show only when a macro condition is true, like [combat]. The only thing I'm really using this for is to hide bars when possessing something, but I'm sure others users will come up with something for it.
  • The action sets mechanism for configuring stances. In Bongos2, you'd say, "This bar should show the buttons on bar3 when in cat form, and bar2 when in bear form" Lets call this bar mirroring. Bongos2 could get away with bar mirroring, since every bar has the same effective size. Bongos3, however, does not have that limitation. So telling Bongos3 that you would want bar 1 to show the buttons on bar 2, when bar 2 is 1 button, and bar1 is 30, would not make very much sense. So instead, you tell Bongos3, "This bar should have this many sets of buttons. When I'm in cat form, use set 2, when I'm in bear form, use set 3, otherwise use set 1"


Issues

It sounds nice...but I'm not yet satisfied with the design. I need to add in more feedback to the bar creation/destruction and stance configuring stuff in Bongos3. It really does make sense, once you understand it, but getting to the point of understanding it is going to be too difficult for the average user.

The second issue I've been having is the binding system. The first implementation I wrote for Bongos3 did not work properly for non US locales. I released a new implementation yesterday, and if that does not work, then I'm probably headed toward writing a Bongos 2.5. The rest of Bongos3 cannot really work at this time unless the binding system works.

There are, of course, other minor issues, but I'm not thinking about them until I solve the major ones :)


Other Addons

Bagnon For now, Bagnon is in bugfix only mode. If someone wants to fork it to add in more features, then by all means do it.

Combuctor Combuctor's priority is lower than Bongos3. Odds are, it'll be released more or less as is, or I'll completely revamp it. Not sure which :P

Sage Sage is lower than Combuctor in priority. Again, its going to be a "minor changes" or "total revamp." I'm leaning towards the middle, somehow :P

OmniCC Bugfix mode, like Bagnon. There's really nothing else I want to implement that's not there.

SellFish & Ludwig Same :P

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  • Sun, Feb 14 2010 8:13 PM ()

    Ok people. Bongos is now called Dominos. So.. yeah

  • h2smunky said 
    Tue, Sep 8 2009 10:16 AM ()

    so man up an take over

  • Wed, May 20 2009 2:46 PM ()

     Man i wish someone would take this over or do something with it, such a waste of such an amazing mod, you would figure that with the amount of peeps playing wow someone would man up, but i guess thats the way of the wow world.

  • Fri, Oct 24 2008 8:19 AM ()

    OMG i need Bongos for WOLK... i miss my Bongos /cry.. Bartender just doesnt cut it

  • Tue, Oct 21 2008 11:43 AM ()

    PLEASE some1 redo bongos bar it was by far the best to use.

  • Mon, Oct 20 2008 4:39 PM ()

    I want my bongos back. Seriously keep up the great work, can't wait to see what you deliver next.

  • kghastie said 
    Thu, Oct 16 2008 8:18 AM ()

    Been using Bartender4 as a replacement and it's pretty good, although it seems i'll have to do a custom macro to get my bar to change based on target:friendly :(

  • vatosky said 
    Thu, Oct 16 2008 5:00 AM ()

    I think he dropped this and made a new addon from the scratch called Dominos http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9085-Dominos.html#info

  • kghastie said 
    Tue, Oct 14 2008 11:48 PM ()

    So now that the 3.0 patch is out, my Bongos don't seem to work anymore. I have Bongos2 installed. What do I need to do to get my bongos back? Will B2 be updated to work with WoW 3.0? If not, then is B3 in good enough shape to replace Bongos2 (I have a druid main and a lock alt). Thanks for a great addon - hope I don't have to switch!

  • Fri, Oct 10 2008 8:41 PM ()

    Actually I'd really just like Bongos2 back for now. I had to take my video card out and give it to a friend so his computer would stop lagging terribly. (Yay Vista -_-) So now we're sharing his computer. I had Bongos2 before and it was perfect, I miss it too much now. :( If someone could send me a link to it that would really make my day.

  • Fri, Oct 10 2008 8:35 PM ()

    I see there's an add-on for this but the main file isn't anywhere on the site and I can't find it with the Curse Client either. Is there a different web site for this or is there a way I can get Bongos2 back?

  • Tue, Oct 7 2008 8:27 AM ()

    Nice job :)

  • Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    cool, good work.

  • rjarana said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    Ya I'm currently using the beta and no problems so far. I feel that it's way less buggier than bongos 2 . Keep up the good work.

  • Zyuu said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    Good stuff :)

  • Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    Great work m8, I been using bongos2 for a while now, and I will probably install bongos3 tonight. The only option I felt was missing from v2 were the variable length of the bars.

    Keep up the great work.

  • Tuller said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    So the first thing I'm going to try to improve the action set system is shuffle around the right click menus a bit. The action sets slider will appear on every panel for bar switching, and every slider for switching (bear form, etc), will now say Set X instead of simply X. I'm hoping that will allow people to make the connection between action sets and paging a bit easier.

    If that does not work, I'll try out more dramatic options.

    I'm also looking at the idea of making the right click menus for stances and the state header more easily editable so that people can add in lesser used things like switching on travel form, or more complex actions like a ctrl-alt-shift modifier bar. Basically my idea is to release a plugin that will show how its done, and then see what people do with it from there. Ideally, I'll be doing a similar thing with Combuctor.

  • Oakentwo said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    I´ve always been a big fan of bongos.
    Had a little trouble finding the "binding mode", but found it at last.

    What i am missing is my number from 1-0 on the first action bar, is there any way i can make them show again?
    Another thing would be that when you press a button it shows what actionbutton is being activated.

    Am i posting on the wrong board? wahahahah!

    Keep up the good work!

  • Tuller said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    That sounds like you needing to bind keys to Bongos.

  • yatahaze said 
    Mon, Apr 7 2008 7:46 PM ()

    Can we install/update Bongos3 via curse yet? If so, how?