World of Warcraft

Plans Beyond Northrend Confirmed

Not that many (did you?!) believed the silly rumors that kept saying how Wrath of the Lich King would be Blizzard's final expansion for World of Warcraft… but, it doesn't hurt to hear it from one of the Lead Designer's just to feel completely reassured.

Some fun facts about expansions and MMOs is that the old school game EverQuest is still releasing expansions and they're up to 14 expansions so far, with a new one planned for October the 21st.Now, EQ had at its peak somewhere around 700,000 subscribers, while WoW has above 10,000,000. It's not exactly rocket science to understand that we're going to see tons of expansions for WoW.

Question is what's next after Northrend. My guess is Emerald Dream. There are many other speculations as well, but I'm rooting for Emerald Dream, since it has huge potential and I love the lore behind it. Sure, Maelstrom or Undermine has enormous potential as well.Either way, it's likely that we won't hear anything about this for some time.

“We actually already have ideas on how we’re going to expand on that in the future,” Chilton told us when asked if more land was going to be added to the game...[a lot of] the major landmasses that we talked about heavily in previous WarCraft game have already come to fruition, although there are still areas of the game that we’ve talked about and set up story-wise that we haven’t revealed yet. So there’s definitely more to go.”

-- Tom Chilton, Lead Designer

It's actually quite amusing to read posts by some players saying that since Arthas is such a powerful adversary, Wrath of the Lich King should be the last expansion until WarCraft 4 or World of Warcraft 2. What those people do not realize is how MMOs tend to bend the lore and always aim to expand. MMOs have no final boss or a "THE END" type of ending.It's one of the main selling points and also why we pay a monthly fee.

Sure, many are new to MMOs and it will take them awhile to understand how they work, but even trying to speculate or thinking along those lines will only end up in disappointment. Luckily the majority – including me – are happy to know that WoW will expand over and over. Perhaps within two-three years from now, we'll be having Emerald Dream, Undermine and The Maelstrom?Highly possible and most likely there will be even more due to the free content patches in between as well.

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  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    im still waiting on the emerald dream. I can't wait to come to malfurion's aide

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    YAY^__^

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Kul Tiras, Gilneas, Pandaria, the sunken part of Kalimdor... there are a lot of existing "lore" places that are actually unused, nothing say that the Emerald Dream will be the next expansion. Yes some of the place is already in the data files since a long time ago, but if I remember well it was even before WotLK, so that's not something reliable.

    Also, there are a lot of places actually existing in-game that could be used as expension materials. Think Old Ironforge, Karazhan's Crypt, the Old god below Tirisfal, and so on...

  • thomojo said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    WoW has much lore, u can write a few (or 10) books about it, its interesting

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    no wonder my parents are always teling me that MMOs will last for the eternity...

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Meh, people have to read lore before they make any speculations about it, standing as of now, the hierarchy of the greater evil powers are The Old Gods, The Titans, and Sargeras, Also on a greatly smaller level than those the Dragon aspects. Honestly its hard to say after this because Kil'jaeden created the Lich King from Ner'zuhl who was just an orc shaman, who lured Arthas to the Frostmourne and fused with Ner'zuhl when he put on his armor... and technicall Kil'jaeden isn't dead... so right now the most powerful enemeis we're looking at with the upcoming expansion are Kil'Jaeden, Arthas, Deathwing (The Earthwarder/Neltharion), and Malygos (Blue dragon aspect), and possibly not Malygos depending on whether blizzard allows him to go crazy evil or not O_o or maybe we just beat him with a stick until he gives up etc etc.... you know, ANYWAYS thats how it is basically any alteration from that was blizzards decision that strays away from lore.

  • grageth said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Didn't you guys know that the next expansion is a portal to hell where we will fight through areas leading up to fighting Diablo? They are going to fuse the two games of course! Isn't it obvious to anyone else?

  • Fordie said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Um no.

  • sanico said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    i just got one qwuestion. i havent read the lore so whats maelstorm and undermine? AND im so happy to know thewre will be new expansions. but also pretty damn sorry about it. then youll only need a single grp to defeat illaden and arthas :P which will be stupid. and so many lvls still to go

  • plonker said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    World of Warcraft is the best game i love the expansions there AWESOME! keep it up blizzard

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Actually, Maelstrom set is next, followed by 'the planes' (includes Pandaria, Xoroth home of the Nethrezim {both level 1 zones}, Emerald Dream, and some other stuff), then the 'legion' expansion, which has among other things, Argus.

  • jluper said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    When or will there ever be access to hyjal? i thought even before theexpansion was spoken of that it would be arthas and to get there we would use hyjal or maybe a boat in theramore that never moves.
    btw ive read books 1-3 of warcraft but what is undermine and maelstorm oor even emerald dream gonna be about? i couldnt think of the story line... did i miss a book or few?

  • jluper said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    Also i bet you wont kill arthas, its just too simple, its just kaelthas you dont wanna kill em. arthas could be used for a future second last boss raid as in maybe some great demon or dragon saved him so for "now" hes assisting them or something

  • soliden said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    As far as I can tell, there is a corruption within the Emerald Dream called the Emerald Nightmare. This is why dragon's have appeared outside of gates to the Emerald Dream in various zones, such as Duskwood.

    Most likely, the ED will be the next expansion since you can visit the ED on a map viewer, as well as browse the model files in the WoW model viewer.

    As for the Maelstrom, Queen Aszshara is alive and well. She controls the naga and they are pretty angered at what has happened with the islands above the MS. This leads to the possibility of player owned boats to traverse the seas, as well as open up new islands that have been previously undiscovered or inaccessible, such as the Goblin's homeland island of Kezen. On top of that, there are still more old gods and the Burning Legion, so there is plenty of room for several more expansions. Given by Blizzard's success, I'm sure we'll be seeing another one soon enough. I just hope they don't keep increasing the level cap in increments of ten...

  • phaden said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:10 AM ()

    As for the Emerald Dream, those files have been there since release or shortly after, along with the "old outlands" files. Though they could be a pointer, i would not give too much weight on such things, as they can always change.

  • phaden said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:09 AM ()

    Yeh i do not think that is what would happen at all. Two seperate universe, they wont tie them in.

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:09 AM ()

    i doubt that players are going to actually fight arthas to the deadh,considering he's the lich king with a massive undead army i'm guessing he's going to have several scourge come out to fight the players while he makes his escape.

  • ss4keef said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:09 AM ()

    I hope the third WoW expansion will have 2 new races, 1 hero class, new professions, 1 or 2 new classes, Maelstrom or Emerald Dream and other new features.

  • cdog373 said 
    Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:09 AM ()

    awsome can't wait for more

  • Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:09 AM ()

    Eventually we could have the Void or whatever its called where the Burning Legion is.

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