World of Warcraft

Alterac Valley 2.4 Changes

" Alterac Valley will see a few very significant improvements in the next patch and we wanted to share the details of what we have planned.

The first change will be to move the Horde's starting tunnel back to a more equal distance from the first objectives, which will help evenly distance the starting points for each side across the terrain when the battle commences.

In addition, the General and Warmasters for each faction will receive a stacking buff from each other that boosts their health and damage. The more of them that are still in the battleground, the more dangerous they will all be. This will put a greater focus on destroying (and defending!) the towers that remove the Warmasters as players work toward defeating the appropriate General and conquering the land.

Also Balinda Stonehearth has been studying her spellbooks to become a more challenging opponent to the Horde and will do more damage with her spells. The additional health we recently added to Balinda and General Vanndar Stormpike will no longer be needed with these improvements and will be changed back to their previous amounts with the patch.

With these improvements teamwork and strategy will be more important than ever from beginning to end as the Alliance and Horde battle for victory in Alterac Valley. We'll see you on the battlefield."

Hopefully this will help some battlegroups out.

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  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    STOP F**KING WITH AV. I'm so sick of blizzard trying to balance everything in this BG, 2.4 is only going to make things harder for horde. They need to just wipe all of AV and start over and make it as even as AB, WSG, and EotS.

  • Deey said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    This is awesome! I can't wait for the patch!
    -v- Making the start point for the Horde closer to towers and nerfing Belinda's is JUST what the Horde needs since the alliance mostly are gitting first to Drek!

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    So... is there anything in this for horde that the alliance doesnt get? I still say mirror the map and be done.

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Sad that it takes a nerf to the Horde to get the Alliance to stop boycotting.
    Oh well, we'll still destroy them every time :)

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Duh you fucking dipshit. horde always wins. the envriment is against the aly. ally gets trapped. horde deserves to be nerfed

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Duh you fucking dipshit. horde always wins. the envriment is against the aly. ally gets trapped. horde deserves to be nerfed

  • WolfeR said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Good.

  • Phreaky said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Battle Group Ruin... Alliance win's 80% of the time... so... GG

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    maybe alliance just just stop whining and get better :]

  • Kathius said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Sounds great! Even being the Horde side that's getting nerfed, I truly don't mind. Anything to lower the que times at this point is fine by me.

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    pansy alliance. sooo many patches and you still cant win.

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    AFK still is the biggest trouble in AV. Until blizz fixes the combat system so AFKer's do not pollute the field no fix is going to do anything. Before they were in the tunnel and we all applauded blizz attempts to correct the situation but now they are on follow throwing out just enough damage to remove the flag. Team with most afk loses plain and simple. A system that does not reward such unwanted behavior must be put into place.

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    I agree with angelrock. when the afk debuff 1st came out there was maybe 1 at the most afkers on my server then the win raito was almost even

  • NAPALM71 said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    ur fulla *** you tard alli has special treatment in AV its been proven. go read something

  • Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    there shud be something like if u have 0 damage or healing you dont get honor and it goes up % wise

  • Dupp said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Ah, Blizzard, you just can't help your self can you? (Hell got a patch coming better Nerf something-anything-quick)
    All the BG's are screwed unless of course your a pre-made Raid, the casual player is penalized regardless, so who cares?
    There are instances for raid groups, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, and of course now BG's, I guess the rest of us can just get lost.
    Blizz are proud to announce 10Mill accounts, I wonder how many play BG's? I would imagine not too many due to the current structure, as a result to the vast majority of players BG Gear isnt an option.
    So if a simple boycott by Alliance because they "don't like it" wins the day, then of the 10Million who currently are eligible for BG's and don't play perhaps some thought could be given as to why not Mr Blizz; then perhaps get your collective heads out of your behinds and really level the playing field for the rest of us, or would that be asking too much?
    I guess its normal human behavior the "squeaky wheel" gets the oil while the rest of the machine quietly falls apart.

  • Kathius said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    Dupp,
    AV is serious issue at the moment that will continue unless modified. Would you rather them leave it as is? What's your suggestion to fix the situation perfectly?

  • Jakob6ix said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    I like all the remarks about AV not being even and how ally is whining about it.
    Hey guess what! I happen to remember oh say 1 year ago before AV was changed and the horde stopped going into AV because ally would steam roll them everytime, the reason? Well, maybe because 1 year ago, it was rush drek/van winner kills gets points, and ally were better at getting to drek first.

    Now the table has turned and ally is boycoting AV, and the horde are in an uproar about the balance, guess what, get used to it, i know you like being able to win easier then ally, but no one cares, you got your full glad (s1) gear from ally having no hope of winning.

    Also Dupp, i know you have the attention span of an infant, and clearly the knowledge backing of one, but you have no idea how the system works, ive been playing this game since BETA, and i for one know, nerfs are needed, having a warrior getting slaughtered by mages using rank 1 frostbolt, or rogues with 100% backstab crits, 1800ap and no cooldown on stuns, without nerfs you would have 5 mans downing BC raid bosses.

    Also, with your comment on raid groups having 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5, you know, this may shock you, but if you spent less time whining on the forums, you could get friends to join premades WITH YOU and arena WITH YOU it would,'t be an issue for you.

    Oh and hey, with blizzards 10 million accounts and not many PVP'ers due to the current structure, you'd wonder why PVP guilds are gained immense amounts of members, hard core arena teams raiding with there PVP specs, because im sure they are concerned about the current structure about as much as blizzard is concerned with your $15 a month.

    Remember its your $15 you pay to play, but its our $149,999,985 that thinks your an idiot.

    Good job blizzard, keep the game as you see fit.

  • Jakob6ix said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    I like all the remarks about AV not being even and how ally is whining about it.
    Hey guess what! I happen to remember oh say 1 year ago before AV was changed and the horde stopped going into AV because ally would steam roll them everytime, the reason? Well, maybe because 1 year ago, it was rush drek/van winner kills gets points, and ally were better at getting to drek first.

    Now the table has turned and ally is boycoting AV, and the horde are in an uproar about the balance, guess what, get used to it, i know you like being able to win easier then ally, but no one cares, you got your full glad (s1) gear from ally having no hope of winning.

    Also Dupp, i know you have the attention span of an infant, and clearly the knowledge backing of one, but you have no idea how the system works, ive been playing this game since BETA, and i for one know, nerfs are needed, having a warrior getting slaughtered by mages using rank 1 frostbolt, or rogues with 100% backstab crits, 1800ap and no cooldown on stuns, without nerfs you would have 5 mans downing BC raid bosses.

    Also, with your comment on raid groups having 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5, you know, this may shock you, but if you spent less time whining on the forums, you could get friends to join premades WITH YOU and arena with you it would be an issue for you.

    Oh and hey, with blizzards 10 million accounts and not many PVP'ers due to the current structure, you'd wonder why PVP guilds are gained immense amounts of members, hard core arena teams raiding with there PVP specs, because im sure they are concerned about the current structure about as much as blizzard is concerned with your $15 a month.

    Remember its your $15 you pay to play, but its out $149,999,985 that thinks your an idiot.

    Good job blizzard, keep the game as you see fit.

  • Simulo said 
    Fri, Feb 8 2008 12:41 AM ()

    i love how the alliance NEVER mentions that they can bypass the entire horde-base NPCs, while we have to fight the NPCs by the forge, the flag guards (that's fine)...but wait! when we finally cap the flag OUR guards go straight for the stable-NPCs and then the stable-NPCs run right into Van's fort after us.

    oh and for all you alliance...i play both sides..in Ruin battle group...so i do know what i'm talking about.

    if they wanted to fix it they should just wipe all the changes they did..and start over with the AV we had when it first came out,

    but it really doesn't matter how much AV gets nerfed...EoTS is the new AV-honor-farm. Why? because we steam roll the alliance in 4/5 games [i only play 5 BGs a day...gets to boring after a point].

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