World of Warcraft

Fan asks court to ban real sloth and greed from WoW

A video game fan wants justice in the World of Warcraft. Antonio Hernandez have played WoW for some time now and is tired of the gold sellers and corruption that plague the game.

It will be waged in the Fort Lauderdale federal courthouse. The former assistant manager at an Orlando-area video game store is suing a company he says sells "virtual gold" from the "World of Warcraft" for real money. He wants IGE U.S. banned from selling gold - a practice commonly called "gold farming" or "real money trading" - because it hurts the game’s economy and ruins the entertainment experience, according to the lawsuit. Virtual gold, earned within the game, can be used for such things as buying and repairing equipment or learning new skills.

The case is thought to be the first of its kind - a lawsuit filed by a player seeking to ban "real money trading" within a virtual world. Hernandez wants a judge to certify the case as a class-action lawsuit, another potential first when it comes to lawsuits involving online role-playing games.

The legal fight is being closely watched by the fledgling field of "virtual law" and passionate "World of Warcraft" players.

"The real significance of this case is, ‘What are the rights of the (virtual world) community members when they go online?’" said C. Richard Newsome, Hernandez’s attorney.

Check out the full article here.

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  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    the fact is things like the epic flyers are priced so high for a reason, it's to make those ppl that are desperate for them forced to farm gold/sellable items etc, thus taking up much playtime and eventually having to add another month on the subscription

    It's the same with honour and BG items, heroic bagde items less so as a regular raider has them coming out their butts

    but the fact is that it all comes down to us players having to spend more and more time trying to get what we're after, whether it's the epic flyer or some rare raid drop, which all adds up to more money in Blizz's pocket, and let's face, as long as they're getting paid, do they really care?

  • Jhaisen said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Everything in-game is owned by Blizzard. The gold/items/etc are assigned to a character, which your account lets you access. But the character & all it's virtual possessions are the property of Blizz.

  • Jhaisen said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    If you use the report spam option, it puts the entire account on ignore. I've used it a few times to block non-spammers, simply faster & easier than adding every alt to my ignore list.

  • lofstrr said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I hope this gets thrown out. The last thing we need in Azeroth is the federal gov't. Yeah gold spam sucks but I would rather have them the Dept of Virtual World Security fscking up my gaming experience. A skewed virtual economy is better than having congress try to figure out a way they can tax us for epic.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    blizzard starting:
    http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/1964/
    blizzard winning one:
    http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/6073/
    can i have a cookie now =P

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Farmers annoy me to almost as much as people with Alts

    Blizzard really should have made it one character per Account or maybe one per realm
    Business goes down when instead of someone coming to you to cut them a gem or buy a necklace, when instead they can just log out go on their alt make the item and send it to their main.....kinda kills the fun in being a JC or BS

    One character Per Account or Per realm would help this AND FARMING

    Farmers would think twice if to pay more cash to make a farming account if you can only have one character per account payin more for subscription rather than jst makeing an alt same with spammers.

    (and yeah to those who complain that if this happened what would happen to ur alts well, free realm change to spread all ur alts across diff realms)

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    It's called playing the game, it's what we pay to do, the reason people find farmers unfair is because they make it so some people have to work harder in game than others who just get the money from a professional farmer.

  • Heckler said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Hmm I don't think I'd be playing as long as I have if I only had 1 character per realm. Rolling alts across other realms is fine, but I'd be damned if I had to. Keeping track of my friends that way would be a major pain in the ass. One realm, one guild, 9 character slots...

    You're only thinking about the economy and not the social aspect of having alts available?

  • Axl-187 said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Lmao,when you click the link to read the full article there are like 3 adds selling WoW gold right on the same page.

  • _Fish said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Don't mean to be a grammar whore, but...
    "Antonio Hernandez have played WoW for some time now..."?

    But seriously, I do think that gold farming should be shot down. Then shot again.
    I'm tired of being spammed with the tells advertising power leveling and gold. It's just not fair to the players who actually WORK for their gold, too.

  • Flowie said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    HELL YEAH.

  • kev49 said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    if people want to spend money on buying gold for the game.that is up to them.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    People who buy gold are lazy, end of argument. People who buy it devalue and degrade the hard work real players put into their characters.

    This, in my opinion is a better argument against it than the welfare of the economy, which people mess with anyway by playing the AH. But i've been spending 2+ hours a day for a while now doing daily quests for money (about 150g a day). Its a pain but i do it because WoW is about putting effort in for a reward. It isn't an easy game or it wouldn't require so much time input.

    However if you have a spare £15 you can get 1000 gold sent to you. Thus skipping a little under 7 days and 14+ hours of my work.

    Its not fair on the honest players that people who have the spare cash IRL can use that to their advantage in a "fantasy roleplaying game" - where is the roleplaying and escapism in using IRL money to further yourself in game!? You dont deserve the money, and you all spit in the face of the honest players who put real effort in!

    100% behind this guy! He have played wow and he will have justice!!

  • oggywan said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    You pay to play...not to be harassed by ads.

  • Tithulta said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Also replying to the guy who hates ALTs?!! I'm a solo player and I refuse to pay the exorbitant prices most JC's want for their items. i know what it take to make them and I sympathize. On Scilla I have the full gambit of professions covered. Several are over 300 atm the others 150-225. If I only had one character I'd have been bored out of my mind 2 years ago when I began playing.

    Im SO tired of being whispered when playing my low lvl characters. Its constant spam of gold sellers and their ilk. I earn every copper I have. I love the struggle of deciding between that shiny new weapon or buying my latest skills. Well that part stinks, but if you've played as long as I have you know how to make Gold legit. And there are always some player starting up a guild desperate for signatures and they'll sometimes pay for it.

  • Rofocal said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I laugh at people who have to buy gold. It's really sad. Also throw leveling services in there. If it's in the agreement to not do that, then don't end of story. There's no "but they don't hurt anyone" or "it's just a game, who cares". Fact is you don't know who it hurts and yeah it's a game, a game I and others would like to play without getting spammed and have equal footing with everyone else. Oh and if you didn't know, most gold-selling companies get a portion of their gold from hacked accounts.

    But the bottom line is, when an account is created, the gold companies and you, the player, agree not to do that *** if you're going to play. So there's a very good case here and Blizz is backing him up on this case.

  • Freys said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I agree 100%, I want to play not to have to read dam chat messages every 5 mins about buying gold.
    If a player cant go out and kill something to make money then that player should go fine a nice easy game that they can play and leave the rest of of alone. Same with the dam gold company's, leave the players be, enough is enough already

  • leifs said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    yet each and every one of you agree to abide by the posted speed laws when driving and i bet less than 1% of the usa population drives at or under the posted speed limits.

    same applies to the illegal downloading of music and dvd's.

    there is no difference.

  • hamor said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Honestly, the real problem isn't even mentioned in this lawsuit... Yes, it's true that there are a large number of "Gold farms" that have players sit and kill things for endless hours. That is annoying, but not bad in itself, just the selling. What really screws the population are the farmers that don't actually farm anything. Instead, they install keyloggers in any way they can or otherwise hack player's accounts, sell everything they own, and send the money to their own characters. I've known many many people who's accounts were hacked, this is the true problem with the gold selling industry.

  • sodequis said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Gold farming does nothing to the game's economy.. All it does is irritate those who get the spam messages...

    How do gold farmers get the gold? They farm it. So someone buying in game gold for out of game currency has no greater impact than if you had farmed all that gold yourself or if they had just mailed a large sum to you at random. The only way this dynamic isn't true is in the case of exploits and hacks that help to create gold in a way that the game isn't intended to do. So as long as they are acquiring the gold the same way everyone else does, there really isn't a complaint to be made from that angle. It's really not that hard to comprehend.

    And if there is too much gold(in blizzard's defenition of it) on a server, than all blizzard has to do is adjust the loot tables and drop rate of said gold. It's not as if gold farmers are creating the gold from thin air... They are playing the game to acquire it.

    "However if you have a spare £15 you can get 1000 gold sent to you. Thus skipping a little under 7 days and 14+ hours of my work." - this would be true if it wasn't for the fact that somebody did put in the 7+ days to farm that gold.

    I don't defend gold farmers. I dislike the spam as much as the next person. But I also look at things with a bit of logic and rational thought. Whether you Paid someone to farm you gold for 3 days or you farmed the gold for 3 days. The gold was still farmed using the methods that Blizzard requires you to. No harm to the economy...

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