On a side note..

The way the thieves get the accounts they steal is by using keyloggers.

These keyloggers are 99.9% of the time ONLY found on GOLD SELLING WEBSITES.

if someone stole your password and hacked your account it was either:

A) a RL friend of yours or someone you gave the password to (in which case is your own damn fault)
B) you went and clicked on a link you shouldnt have clicked, and your curiosity killed your cat.

and the tipical "well ive been hacked and ive never clicked on any links!" well you havent, but the guy you gave your password to 3 months ago to log on and add X guy to the guild sure did and thats how they got it.

If you dont want your account hacked DONT give your password out, and DONT go to gold selling websites unless you are armed to fight what ever viruses they try to infect you with.

And ive yet to see any site thats not related to wow in any way sending out keyloggers to get wow data... so im preety sure they all come from gold buying sites/emails

Xionicfire, the only thing worse than a thieve is the person who buys from him. Points at Xionicfire. You shame the whole WoW community. If there were not jerks like you they would not need to hack accounts,steal guild banks, and wreck chat in the cities. There are no honorable gold sellers. If they were honorable they would have followed the rules Blizz set up for us, they did not. Neither did you. By the way, how are you losing 90 gold in BT, didn't you learn your toon by grinding mobs like the rest of us getting totally uber as a result. Only on new content do I spend more gold than I make in a raid and that is an investment that will pay off.

Grinding is apart of this game too. Blizzard designed it that way. That's why you have to do so much work to get a 70 and once you're there, get an epic flying mount. And why it's also against the ToS to purchase gold.

How did you even get to level 70 if you don't like grinding? The beginning of the game is full of walking from one place to another doing monotonous quests to get you to outlands and beyond.
That must of been completely unacceptable to you.

You know, some other games have seemingly arbritary rules too. MLB and steroid use? You're not hurting anyone else, right? Just upping yourself is all. If you don't want to play by the rules, play another game. You know, I hear Second Life is all about paying real money for the fake stuff. Go play that if you'd like.

The dailies gives plenty of gold, and they don't take too long to complete either. Blizzard has already made it so that you should be able to get your gold easily.

"it doesnt hurt poeple when you buy wow gold..counteritting REAL money does. not only by the goverment but by raisiing prices for the middle and lower classes." -- well, take a look at the auction house. the inflation due to goldsellers is pretty apparent there.

Lol dude im not even gonna bother with this, keep believing gold sellers can be stopped and theres something you guys can do, in the mean time well just keep playing our game with gold sellers happy while you you live in your fantasy world where these things do not exist.

as i said earlier, unless blizzard comes up with a fun way to make money this will not stop, trying to police this will only go the ways of the prohibition on the USA in the 40s, nowhere... just like marihuana is right now for the USA, yes u will get convicted if your caught, but that doesnt stop you or your kids from smoking pot or people from growing it.

Im out of the discussion, see ya!

Those of you who support buying gold are wrong. That's it. There is not other way around. It is against the rules. Blizzard made the rules and they made the game. They can dictate whatever goes on in the game however they want to.

And another thing, having an epic flying mount is not needed to play the game, so quit using that as an example of needing to farm gold.

Also, I admit tanks get way too big of repair bills, but any other class can easily maintain their funds and make money simply by doing daily quests. It should be even easier now with all the 2.4 daily quests.

If you don't have the time to "grind" the gold, even though you don't need to actually grind gold anymore, then quit and go back to the "life" you seem to not have time for.

One thing I don't fully understand is you pay enough to buy the game, then the expansion, then the next and so on, as well as pay a monthly fee to play...why would you want to spend even more hard earned cash to buy game gold. Play the game, like others said in earlier posts blizzards made it so easy to make gold what's the sense. don't know about anyone else, but I spend enough money on this game without buying game gold.

how DO you stop gold farmers? Answer: You can't.

Whenever there is a demand for something there will always be a supplier.

I agree that is Blizzard wants to really stop the gold farmers then they need to find a way to undercut them. IF that means they need to open a shop of their own or make it so that those players who can't invest the time it would take to acrue enough gold to purchase the item or items that would enhance their play to make it more fun, then so be it.

I just spent about 4 hours doing just the IQD dailies and the Shattrath Dailies. I have the ability to do Ogri'la as well as Netherwing dailies too. Though by the time I finish the new dailies I can only complete like 8 or so more.
Now personally I HATE grinding like that, ofcourse my goal is to get my epic flyer on another one of my 70's. I have 3, and imagine if I had all three do all the dailies they could do. Where is my gametime to do dungeon runs? I can't. I work most often between 8-10 hours a day and usually I just come home and relax before I even get into game.

My thought would be to increase the amount of coin dropped from normal mobs as well as dailies, so that those of us who wish to actually do something besides farming gold, because that's essentially what we're doing, can enjoy the world they've created.

ps- I do not condone buying gold because it CAN and WILL hurt the ingame economy, it's just a matter of time.

First of Gold farm are those poeple that farm gold to sell it for real money. It need to be stopped. Because it make prices on item go up, so those poeple that play the game need to pay more for item they should have too.

To stop it. Sue the the website hosting site and sue the poeple getting the money.

US IRS since most of these site dont pay taxes on money they make from selling gold. Lot of off shore company. But since it US base company IRS can used to close these site down.

Blizzard really isnt taken active roll in trying to stop these gold farm. If spend just a small amount of the money they taken on trying to stop it. it would be over.

those graphs mean nothing.. the price is going down simply because they have bigger stocks.. so basically those graphs are in reverse and the problem is actually getting worse.. when gold sellers have low stock thats when things tend become higher price..

all i can say is they are soooooo annoying, i mean who actually listens to their whispers ingame other than want to snap them like a twig? o well one was unlucky enough to bug me when I was talking to a gm bout a server issue hehe, he got teh hammer brought down big time...