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Dual Spec System Q&A

Dual Spec System Q&A

A new Under Development is available that includes a Q&A with Ghostcrawler about the upcoming Dual Spec system.  This also confirms that the Dual Spec system will be going in with 3.1.0.  This also includes the announcement of a new feature going into patch 3.1.0: Gear Manager!  It sounds like it's going to work like ItemRack, but built into the default UI itself.

Talent Dual Spec Q&A with Ghostcrawler
With the next content patch, we will be introducing a number of additions and changes to the game. One new feature in the works is the ability to set up two separate sets of talents, or "dual spec". While the complete feature may not be immediately available in the Public Test Realms (PTR) and specifics are still liable to change, we wanted to go over some questions with Senior Game Designer Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street to find out more.

Nethaera: What is dual speccing?
Ghostcrawler: Dual speccing is the ability to save two separate talent specs, glyphs, and action bars.

Nethaera: Why are we allowing players to dual spec after all this time?
Ghostcrawler: We really felt like this was a great way to increase the flexibility available to players and encourage them to take part in more aspects of the game. To use just one example, some players like to participate in both raids and Arenas, which is awesome behavior that we want to promote. But, there are some talents which are more useful in one part of the game than another. Currently, players have to pay respec costs and go through the process of setting up the desired talent spec and action bars whenever they switch.

The new system makes this a much more logical process, saving on time and cost and allowing players to easily move from one aspect of the game to another.

Nethaera: Who will be able to use it?
Ghostcrawler: Players who have reached the maximum level will be able to set up dual specs.

Nethaera: Why do players need to be max level in order to do this?
Ghostcrawler: We didn’t want to burden lower-level players with extra complexity as they’re working to level up and learn their class. But if the feature proves popular we might consider expanding it.

Nethaera: How will you be able to set up a dual spec?
Ghostcrawler: Players will be able to visit their trainer and pay a one-time fee to be able to use it.

Nethaera: How do you switch between specs?
Ghostcrawler: Players will be able to switch between their talent specs by visiting any Lexicon of Power provided they’ve paid for the ability to have a secondary spec. Lexicons of Power will be available in major cities, and inscribers will also be able to create a new item that summons one. Anyone can purchase this item, but it requires a ritual of several players to summon it for use by the party. It’s similar to a repair bot in that it will exist in the world for a short duration. It’s important to keep in mind that you will not be able to switch specs while in combat or Arenas. While you won’t be able to switch your spec without the Lexicon, you will still be able to look at your secondary spec whenever you want to.

Nethaera: Will solo players have the ability to switch their specs outside of the cities or will they still need to visit a Lexicon of Power?
Ghostcrawler: Solo players will still need to go into the city to visit the Lexicon of Power to switch their talent spec or will need to get together with other players to summon one in.

Nethaera: Is the item that allows you to summon a Lexicon of Power reusable, or is it used up?
Ghostcrawler: We haven’t made a final decision on that yet, and will be evaluating how it works on the PTR.

Nethaera: Can I respec only one of my talent sets, or will I need to respec them both if I reset one?
Ghostcrawler: When you reset your talents, it will look at the spec you currently have in use as the talent set you want to change.

Nethaera: Will you be able to switch gear easily to match your spec?
Ghostcrawler: At the same time we implement dual specs, we will also be setting up a gear system. The feature is called “Gear Manager.” It can also be used to just swap weapons or trinkets or put on that tuxedo to strut around town. It will not automatically switch your gear when you change your talent spec, but it will allow for an easy gear change between them. The feature may not be fully functional immediately in the PTR, but we’ll have more information to share about it before too much longer.

Nethaera: What about hunters? Often their pet talents are set up to match the talents of the hunter. Will they be able to switch their pet specs as well?
Ghostcrawler: We will wipe the pet talents. However we are going to remove the respec cost for pet talents so that players won’t feel like they need to jump through an additional hoop to respec their pet. In addition, we are going to provide hunters a new core ability to let them remotely access their stable on a long cooldown. This way if their exotic pet heads off to the stable, they will be able to get a different pet. We hope to be able to discuss this new spell in more detail when we get a little further along.

Nethaera: Will you be able to change your Glyphs as well?
Ghostcrawler: Glyphs will be tied to each talent spec so that if you switch between them, so too will the Glyphs. You’ll notice the UI will have changed a little bit so that the Glyph panes show up alongside the Talent panes now that they are associated.

Nethaera: What about hotbars? Will players be able to save them for the talent spec they’re running?
Ghostcrawler: Yes, you will be able to save hotbars and use them with your talent specs. It just saves your bars at the same time as it saves the glyphs and talents. If you want to switch to your other action bar, you will need to change specs.

Nethaera: Is there a way for players to choose their talents without them being saved? Currently, once you spend your talent point, it’s spent unless you pay the respec cost again.
Ghostcrawler: With the dual spec feature, we are going to allow players who respec to configure all their talents before they get saved. They will be able to allocate the points, then choose if they want to use that as their spec, rather than needing to carefully diagram out their talents ahead of time. This will allow players a little more freedom when deciding on the talents they want to pick and avoid costly mistakes.

Nethaera: Will players be confined to only setting up two specs?
Ghostcrawler: We will be launching the feature with just two specs, but depending on how we feel it works out, we might consider additional specs in the future.

Nethaera: When can players expect to try out dual specs?
Ghostcrawler: Players will be able to try out the dual spec system on the Public Test Realms when they are made available. This has been a pretty big project with a lot of people working toward making it a reality in the game. We’ll definitely be watching the feedback and looking for ways of making sure the system works the way we all envisioned it to.

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  • Sun, Mar 8 2009 6:39 PM ()

    YeaY for the level lowering

    Link: forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html

    Now its only level 40 :D

  • egyyypt said 
    Sun, Mar 8 2009 4:00 AM ()

    80, "max lvl"

  • Fri, Mar 6 2009 11:21 AM ()

    what lvl do u get to use duel spec???

  • Thu, Mar 5 2009 9:54 AM ()

    While I can't imagine this would ever come to pass, some players, like me, don't have the time or temperment to level up a whole variety of toons, but I've always wondered what it would be like to play as other classes.  I would love to be able to have my second spec be a class spec, rather than just the talent spec.  

    I'm sure that would require too many coding changes to ever make happen but, y'never know - it could end up simplifying things.

  • Boo92mlb said 
    Wed, Mar 4 2009 6:01 PM ()

    I like this new duel specc that will be happening. I know as well as Dextruse to level up a character with one spec. This will be more helpful for switching up your speccs. If somone is looking for a tank respec over instead of spedning the money. And when you get higher stay dps untill you get their. Its the easiest way to level and when you hit the maximun level then you can  start picking up your tanking or healing gear as well as your dps gear. It will be easyier as well for raids or normal or heroic dungeons as well. Just start picking up the gear as dps untill you have the bonuse healing or tanking ability to keep threat on you as tank and keep the others alive with your healing spec.

  • Boo92mlb said 
    Wed, Mar 4 2009 6:01 PM ()

    I like this new duel specc that will be happening. I know as well as Dextruse to level up a character with one spec. This will be more helpful for switching up your speccs. If somone is looking for a tank respec over instead of spedning the money. And when you get higher stay dps untill you get their. Its the easiest way to level and when you hit the maximun level then you can  start picking up your tanking or healing gear as well as your dps gear. It will be easyier as well for raids or normal or heroic dungeons as well. Just start picking up the gear as dps untill you have the bonuse healing or tanking ability to keep threat on you as tank and keep the others alive with your healing spec.

  • Dextruse said 
    Sun, Mar 1 2009 10:21 AM ()

    Okay well, I think we'll all enjoy this new idea. I know what its like to level up a toon with just one spec.. DPS cause no one wants to level healz or tank spec(unless ur a lolidan). I've made two types of toons, one a shaman, just for the healing effect... its nice to be able to switch up chars... and now I have a DK for tanking, same reson as healing but to tank, duh... anyway thats two types but this duel-spec stuff... I think it will turn out to be just great... Nice I have DPS/Healz, DPS/Tank.... hmm now I dont give a woop... groups will be a lot faster to get and there wont be any more hassel with... "hey are you healz?, No?, okay bye" or when I post a "LF1M Healz, PST" I wont get a tell back saying "Warlock?" ... gah ... whats gona happen to them warlocks and rogues and such... To bad... but good stuff guys ... I like it its gona work out great, nice brain work at lest you can do something right... Newbs...

  • setari said 
    Thu, Feb 26 2009 4:15 PM ()

    I love the fact you will be able to be able to actually deduct the points before you finalize it in the tree. Very nice. I've probably spent over 1000g just on mistakes... *sigh*... really wish this was implemented earlier... *sigh* well now i can swtich between fury and prot... YAY... anyhoo, GJ blizz!

  • ZacWolf said 
    Wed, Feb 25 2009 11:52 AM ()

    I love the idea, but as an Inscriber I was very hopeful that the summoned "Lexicon of Power" would allow users to switch out their glyphs but NOT necessarily switch between two different predefined sets.

    I know from a playability standpoint switching between two different PRESET glyph sets is much easier and more intuitive (and faster in Raid settings), but I was really hoping that the duel spec talent options would put glyphs into the "consumable" category.  So that if a player wanted to switch glyphs for different builds you would have to use the summoned Lexicon of Power in the same way that glyphs are applied and changed today.

    This would mean that people would have to maintain stacks of the glyphs they use, which I understand everyone would HATE, but as an Inscriber there is very little "money-making" opportunities (after the initial setup period of course) which makes inscription worthwhile outside of a guild setting.

    I get that makes inscription very much like enchanting, more of a "guild service" profession.  At least, vs. Enchanting, we have the benefit that our mats ARE much easier to gather...

  • Tue, Feb 24 2009 6:38 PM ()

    Awesome! I thought it was just a rumor. Can't wait to try it!

  • Tue, Feb 24 2009 2:00 PM ()

    awww need level 80 :P it may make it a lil harder to get gear in instances :/ since lots of ppl will be trying to get more differant sets now

  • Davichio said 
    Tue, Feb 24 2009 1:18 PM ()

    but would be uber sweet for my twink priest....comon blizz help us all out

  • Davichio said 
    Tue, Feb 24 2009 1:17 PM ()

    I love this idea, As a DK dps I can tank if a raid is in need of one, or a heroic...plus i hate my expensive respec cost, being able to choose before locking is awesome!!!!!

  • Tue, Feb 24 2009 7:17 AM ()

    Its not doing lvls 1-79 any good at all, pffffffffffffft.

  • Jadieh said 
    Mon, Feb 23 2009 12:58 PM ()

    I just wish it was all levels. Levelling is usually easier in a different spec to doing instances at ANY level.

  • Jadieh said 
    Mon, Feb 23 2009 12:57 PM ()

    Perfect for priests IMO. Shadow for soloing and Holy for raiding.

  • V1c1ous said 
    Sun, Feb 22 2009 4:05 PM ()

    This sounds so effin stupid. Theyre restricting individuality really. I mean how many of the same classes/specs of people are you going to see once this is applied (mages: frost/fire. Rogues: Sub/combat. Paladins: Ret of course/prot)? I mean really, we all couldnt just stick to two specs before? We have to be regulated now to make it a good thing? I dunno, I just like the choice of picking from THREE diff specs like we have been. I think its funny how ghost goes about saying in the second to the last paragraph " but depending on how we feel it works out, we might consider additional specs in the future." Just so we can go back to variety again. What a waste of time.

  • Aaberg said 
    Thu, Feb 19 2009 1:53 PM ()

    "Lootwhores all over WoW rejoice now you can roll on 2nd AND offspec"

    I'm quite sure it will stay the same. My mainspec will remain as a tank, and my offspec will remain DPS. That's the role I fill in my guild.

    We all have a posted offspec on our website (only really necessary for people with 3 possible  different roles), and as long as we just refer to that, offspec loot distribution becomes a breeze.

  • Weszz said 
    Thu, Feb 19 2009 10:42 AM ()

    This is freaking awesome can't facking wait!

  • Wed, Feb 18 2009 9:34 PM ()

    I hope they set it to all lvls cause then my shammie can heal as well as stay Enhancment, no more "oh ur a shamman can u heal?"

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