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Panmunda — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:13 GMT

hmm, that Downranking would be way to bad, i will force you allways to wait till a surtain amount of dmg done on your target to heal it up to his max, or take the loss and overheal bigtime

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Bladderhead — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:12 GMT

The point of the matter is down ranking was given the shaft in tbc, anyone who downranks notices that they get a fraction of their spell damage/healing. It was something that they implemented once bc was brought out, this is just the death of down ranking

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Zyuu — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:11 GMT

Indeed, downranking is bad, glad they are killing it off.

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someguyuknow — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:10 GMT

Is warlock's haunt healing ability based on every1s dmg, or just yours? Cause if its every1 then thats an insane amount of healing.

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Zeriphal — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:09 GMT

It does say "all damage" so I would think it counts everyone's damage.

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teknomuffin — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:08 GMT

icied barbed spear hehe

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ephydias — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:07 GMT

Sorry but for certain use it was very helpful.

On my Shaman I was using the Rank1 of my shocks to interrupt, slow down to save up mana and using Rank1 healing wave to keep the healing bonus on my target.

I don't know why they keep all the ranks if they don't want us to use then...

And now they are completely useless...

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Jahover — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:06 GMT

Why is down ranking bad? The only people it was hurting was people who weren't doing it = morons in most of those cases, why balance it around them?
In arena I always use Entangling Roots Rank 1, because the damage it does is pathetic anyway + breaks fast, who hurts from that other then druids who uses max rank?
I also use down ranking on my paladin when grinding, rank 1 crusader gives the +3% crit + rank 1 SoCommand gives the same damage on proc as max rank, so of course I use those instead, who did that hurt?
The down ranking change is ***, it is a change who only helps people who are to stupid to figure out when to do it...

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hamor — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:05 GMT

You just answered exactly why downranking needed to be removed. True, it was a nice thing for healing and the like to preserve a bit of mana, but there was desperate need to change things like shaman's being able to interrupt you every 4.5 seconds for 2 seconds at a cost of 25 mana. You also gave excellent examples like the entangling roots and seal of command. Shaman ancestral healing (spam rank 1 3 times then a max rank) is another good one.

I would prefer if they still allowed partial downranking for healing/damage spells that have no extra effect, but this way everything gets simplified and certain classes can't exploit it.

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Jeremyz0r — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:04 GMT

"What is this?!?! MY INFINITY MANA IN ARENA, NOOOOOO!!!!"
..!.,

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Rukien22 — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:03 GMT

Insane either way.

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nightfalcon — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:02 GMT

all spells cost a defined % of your base mana - ???
This means with every lvl you "pay" more mana for the SAME spell - does this makes sense?????
That means (not included gear effects): e.g. You can only cast a defined NUMBER of spells.

What is intended with this modification and what was so bad on the former mechanic?
I always thought getting more proficient with a skill should make it easier to use - in quality AND quantity.

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Gamashinoch — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:58:01 GMT

Ya this is a little messed up.

No more rank 1 consecration to try to find stealthy's in BG.

But also no more use a spell that does 500dmg to save mana when a mob has 500HP left. Might as well just burn them for the big dmg big mana spell.

So there goes a pvper/arena guy bitchin' and pve gettin' screwed again. And that is exactly what it is ...there's 2 pvp whiners in here alone.