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yarber_63 — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:49 GMT

ok so let me get this right... a druid only has 2 instant heals one is not worth a crap and then you have lifebloom and now they are making it to where a dk can take that away???
i know what why we are at it lets make the druids even weaker? how about we make it where they can't heal at all or better yet lets just take druids out of the game altogeather. it's bad enough hunters can take away a druids buff's but now the dk can take away our healing too? or here is anouther idea how about we make it where they can just one shoot one kill druids????? wait...i think you are dong that already by taking away a druids heals. keep messing with the game boys your gonna lose alot of player's!!! i can see a hunter dk combo in an arena team taking out every team that has a druid in it!!!
and i'm paying how much money to have my toon get weaker while everyone else get's stronger?

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aikouka — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:48 GMT

If I remember correctly, Blizzard said that they're moving the debuff removal to Tranquilizing Shot, which if they leave the rest of the shot alone, this puts it at a 20 second cooldown. Arcane Shot (untalented) has a 6 second cooldown, so Hunters will now have to wait over 3x longer to remove another debuff. Sure Death Knights will hurt druid healing a bit as their removal is more potent than others; however, you know that in that situation, it'd be the job of the other player(s) and the Druid to make sure the Death Knight stays away from the Druid. Also, you shouldn't forget that Blizzard says that they plan on revamping Druid healing a bit to make their direct heals more appealing as they think Lifebloom is too powerful.

They ought to make an ability and give it to WoW players....

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Frostmoy — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:47 GMT

OMG Aikouka great post.

Ok first off yarber you must be one of those "special" WoW players. When Blizzard does something its to even stuff out. At the moment druids are the most over powered arena healing class in the game. They are trying to nerf that to even you out with other class's. That is a nerf yes but it is also adding a yin and a yang to the game. Meaning that is this said class can do something amazingly powerful, then other said class has a ability to hinder the thing that said class does.

In the end you get a game like WoW that has revolutionized MMOs as we know it. They can pull this off because they do not do everything every player wants. They take everything we say into consideration. The problem is if they do everything we want every class would just be overpowered and no fun to play because everyone will own everyone.

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leahu — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:46 GMT

Locks were overpowered before...but no...let's put ressilience on pets too...that's just wrong...

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yarber_63 — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:45 GMT

ok frostmov i'll start with you 1st overpowered??? if that is the case then they need to make warlock's less powerful and sec i'm not a special wow player these post are use to inform and get feed back from players i gave my thought's on the matter I did not insult other players i still think that lifbloom is the only good healing spell a druid has. the other ones are weak and heal over time. and with a 2-3 sec cast time and in pvp you don't have that kind of time to sit there and stand still as you try and heal yourself or other's and if you don't belive me roll a druid and work him up to 70 ( if you can) and go try an arena game. hey i know what while you do that try not to use lifebloom and see how fast you butt get's handed to you.
and now for you aikouka what i wrote was not incoherent. i feel that way just like alot of pple left wow after bc came out. now i will admitt that i'm pasionate about the game but thats just the way i am. but thats better then trying something lame like putting pple down tho i have to admitt you failed at that knee jerk??? really is that the best you could do..... sad, just sad. you both must have had you butt's handed to you by a druid in the game..... i just hope it was my druid who made you guys hate druids

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mudogamba — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:44 GMT

I never got my tranquilizing shots to work, so i forget that hunters even had them. I had always found this particular skill to be broken and not having a true use.

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aikouka — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:43 GMT

At this point, it's only used on mobs that have a Frenzy effect, which are fairly limited overall. I think that's why Blizzard wants to make it more useful... so it actually has a purpose more than just a once in some instance thing. I never raided pre-BC on my hunter as it was used in the old world raids a little and the only place I've had to use it so far was in Black Morass against Temporus, but that can also be removed by a Shaman, Priest or (my personal favorite to do it on) Mage.

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aikouka — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:57:42 GMT

Yes, while I agree that your post does not classify as incoherent, it is borderline ;). But that was not directed entirely at you, as it seems whenever a change comes out, you get the posts that instead of being constructive, they tend to just complain. They don't mention how something could change to help it be balanced, they just whine. Those are not helpful. Albeit, me knocking them is also not helpful either, but my post mostly contained facts that show why your post was in fact a knee-jerk reaction that ignored other changes being made.

Since you ignored said points, so I will reiterate them

1) Lifebloom is being altered to make it less powerful. Blizzard has said that they do not like the reliance on this ability.
2) Druids are gaining more direct heals and Blizzard intends to make said direct heals more worthwhile. This has been mentioned multiple times here on curse with links to blue posts as a source.
3) Arcane shot is going to have the dispel effect removed from it and it will be placed on Tranquilizing Shot. This in turn causes the hunter's time between dispels to change from 6 seconds ( without talents ) to 20 seconds. Not to mention using a full rank Arcane Shot can also deal a decent amount of damage where Tranquilizing Shot deals no damage

Actually, if I were to blame one reason for people leaving WoW would be PVP itself. I visit a few forums, and I have never read a single post from good players that say that WoW PVP is good. Quite a few lament the introduction of Arenas and as much as skill does play a part in victory, so does the make up of the group. Did you notice the winners listed above in the Taiwanese contest? Both teams have a warrior and a druid... surprised? I'm not.

Personally, I think TBC went downhill when the entire game turned into a huge reputation grind fest, where vanilla WoW required almost no grinding (some professions may've wanted some reputations like Timbermaw or Thorium Brotherhood). Blizzard doesn't seem to show signs of stopping this as they mentioned their "tabard system" of gaining reputation.

Oh and I have a druid, so no... I have no bias toward them. Well, unless we get into tanking discussions, in which I absolutely loathe the fact that I have to respec to tank well on my warrior and my druid can just switch gear, but that's another topic ( which Blizzard is trying to address as well ).