Three MMOs to challenge WoW

h41fgod — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:41:03 GMT

Im personally rooting for WAR. AOC feels stiff and rather uninspired from the trailers and gameplay footage. Pirates I couldnt care less for, but thats just personal I think.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Malystra — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:41:02 GMT

The real question here is what do the developers of the myriad games see as success. If they're really looking for WoW level success they will most likely fail. Unless they're patient. WoW didn't become the giant it is overnight. I also hope they've learned something from the mistakes of others, ie: don't do what S.O.E. did with Star Wars Galaxies and alienate the majority of your userbase. Obviously SWG is still netting them profits, but they don't have anywhere near the number of players they used to have.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

nofeardjb — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:41:01 GMT

These games will be good but they're for a different market than the majority of wow players imo.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

TheVade — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:41:00 GMT

WAR might do well.

AoC looks like it'll attract action-rpg fans (ie. Fable) and be more geared towards more hardcore players. Should do ok, but not nearly as good as WoW.

Pirates is going to fail miserably. Everything SOE touches turns to ***. It's like the midas touch for poo.

One thing that people have to remember though is MMORPGs dont need 10 million subscribers to be successful. Back when UO came out they only expected 10,000 subscribers, but they got over 100,000 in the first year and that was considered HUGE. 100,000+ subscribers is more than enough for a game to be a success. 100,000 x 60 = 6 million and 100,000 x $15 = 1.5/month. Don't tell me a game thats bringing in 1.5 million a month as well as 6 million initially is a failure. 100k is a low number too, most games sell a lot more than that at first, how many of them continue to subscribe is a differant story though.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Bearnaked — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:59 GMT

WAR sounds fun, if what im thinkiing the pvp effects main towns and prices then that would be aweeeeesome. The type of pvp im looking for, but im not gonna ditch wow for it. Wish wow had it, lol someone let me kno if thats what they mean.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

eNTi — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:58 GMT

Conan: different crowd, the have yet to show anything good for that game, that wasn't in wow and that doesn't break all the world's rules (like low to none magic)?

Pirates: aehm... hello? even the concept is boring.

WaR: it's basically wow, so if you already got a level 70 char with top-notch gear, you probably want to keep that. the only thing that COULD save this game, is it's very different and devious humor, that actually appeals to me, but certainly not to a lot of players out there... so nope.

all those 3 will get their customers, but not many from wow will switch permanently.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Kody — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:57 GMT

In regards to the SOE comments about Pirates, SOE had nothing at all to do with the development of the game -- they're publishing it through their Platform Publishing program.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

sylmarwar — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:56 GMT

WAR will imo be a good game, and could really compete with WOW. It offers a more pvp (or RVR) aproach to a mmorpg.. which means more fun for us who like skill more than mindless pve battles and nonstop grinding.
What about AION? It's also sheduled for 2008 and it really looks like a great game.. Graphic looks top and they got some nice ideas (wings and so on).. the only thing i am not sure about it is the gameplay..

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Ovidiu — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:55 GMT

lets hope that war will have a more mature membersip than wow

all can play wow

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Monstercloud — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:54 GMT

Wasn't there something just like this a little while ago?...

Anyways, Conan doesn't have a chance, as there is little to no fanbase that is going, "FINALLY! The Conan experience I was hoping for!" Secondly, as fun as Pirates are... um.. they seem to get the short end of the stick for adventures and the such, so "Challenge' is probably the wrong word for these two.

Warhammer though, is probably the only one that can threaten WoW. It has Fanbase, a unique and deep combat system, and RvR (Or as WoW likes to call it, X-realm BGs).

And ROFLcakes @ more mature membership base.. you'll never find one when it comes to any game.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

h41fgod — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:53 GMT

Hehe, its exactly what they mean, its openworld pvp with citysieges and battlegrounds, it brings some really nice alternatives to raiding, and with WoW already pushing all its players into PvP (which is quite poorly supported tbh) WAR is probably going to do unexpectedly well.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

dietx — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:52 GMT

I just wish these MMO companies would stop being stupid and doing what every other company does. The reason WoW reigns supreme is because its a broad game, not fine tuning only one part like questing, pvp, or pve; but all of it. Most games coming out today seem to think that if they say "The BEST PVP EXPERIENCE!" or "AMAZING AND EASY LEVELING!" their going to get members.

Warhammer seems the only contender in this battle, and not really because of any of the features it provides, but the endless amount of Warhammer fans out there (like me) who will even play the game if it sucks.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

h41fgod — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:51 GMT

And by that definition of success, WoW was an absolute landslide compared to any other MMO to date. Sure it might seem low now, but the amounts of players that started in the first few months was completely insane by previous industry standards.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

Granidon — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:50 GMT

Are you kidding me? Not one of those titles has the name recognition that Lord of the Rings has. If LOTRO, which is a very nice game, to be sure, can not topple WoW, those three don't have a prayer. Just because POTC's 3 movies were printing money does not mean everyone wants to be a pirate.

Three MMOs to challenge WoW

ThaOne — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:40:49 GMT

Agreed.. They had, I think like 75k collector's editions that all sold in just the first few months, not to mention all the thousands who didnt luck up on the CE for WoW.
Things it took months, even years for other MMOs, WoW only took a month, two tops to reach.
Within the first 3 months a LOT of the realms had queue times and were reading as full from pve to pvp.