2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

sonokid1 — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:58 GMT

"We have reduced the number of elite NPCs in Stormpike and Frostwolf holds as well as sent all Commanders and Lieutenants out of Alterac Valley. They are currently in search of other battle opportunities"

i smell new bg

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Piemanpm — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:57 GMT

Well, looks like a differant version of AB

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

h41fgod — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:56 GMT

This change should have been implemented ages ago. As for the AB comment, yes sort of, but its more of a Battlefield conquest map than anything. Now if they could just remap some of it.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

spritepixie — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:55 GMT

"Warlords and their general will be more closely linked in the next patch. Pulling one is a guarantee the other will come as well."

Thank goodness. It's about time they fixed that exploit. no more need to fear bomb... not that I pvp much anymore but i'm so very happy to see these changes.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Gladhappy — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:54 GMT

How about balancing the map?

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

disanto — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:53 GMT

although i think this is a cool upgrade for AV, i think it would still be better if they put it back the original way it had been when created, with tons and tons of NPCS and such all over, so people couldnt just do a Run fest to the other side, i loved it when battles ranged from 3-15 hours those were the good ones and good days of PvP

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Xargan — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:52 GMT

I agree, I miss all the old options you had in the original... The Elite Shredder quest was awesome.

I think they have pretty much ruined AV and took away what made it different from all the others.

It is pretty much a bigger version of AB now.

Maybe they will come out with a new 40/40 that is similar to what AV used to be.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

randmp — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:51 GMT

I am very happy they are doing something with AV. This or or something has been need done for a long time.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Salsa — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:50 GMT

Soo.....

They are reducing the number of NPCs and reduce the time it takes to cap a flag.

They are at the same time not really requiring people to actually do any of the quests.

I'm wondering why they think this is going to put the strategy back in AV?

A far better solution would be that you needed to summon the riders and big at least once each to be able to get into the opponents base. This would force people to do the BG quests (at least the most important ones), and when people are already engaged in the strategic summoning quests, getting the wingcommanders for further aid doesn't seem that far off. The shredder is a bit harder since that required that you had the quest, went outside and bought the stuff in AH, and then got it in another BG. Was still fun to use it when you had it, though :D

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

NeosliveR — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:49 GMT

i hope that join as group is going back too

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

h41fgod — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:48 GMT

Lake "frozen something" (cant remember cba to look it up) seems to be what the people who miss the old AV want. Including me, i like the new one, but miss the gameplay in the old one. Unfortunately it seems like on low-horde/alliance (pick one) population servers, the fewer are going to get screwed.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

spritepixie — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:47 GMT

Heh, wouldn't that be nice? I've never understood how Horde always did so badly in AV considering they start halfway down the map and can glitch pull. Now that they can't glitch pull, they just have the advantage in starting positions. but oh well.

AV still used to be my favorite BG when i was grinding honor and rep O.o

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Zeroes — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:46 GMT

Good job.

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Kody — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:45 GMT

I hope so too - it was something they mentioned will be returning - so hopefully it'll be with 2.3. :)

2.3 Alterac Valley Changes

Goldpaw — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:15:44 GMT

Must say that less and less NPCs is a very wrong way to go if Blizzard wants to add more strategy to AV. As it is now, every game is a 15-minute "Rush FW!" (or SP) ...rush. More often than not, towers and objectives are ignored.

And now we're to see even less NPCs? Well, Blizzard seems to think this will make people focus more on the PvP, but I think we all know, that the only thing people care about in AV these days, is to rush to the other side and win/lose as fast as possible, to get their precious marks and sign up for another one.

Meh...
I really miss the old AVs, where the gross amount of NPCs both forced you to think in strategy, and also provided enough time for riders, gryphins, Ivus and the icedude.
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