2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

h41fgod — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:26 GMT

Whining about the Deathknight seems to be top fashion. Seems to me like its a pretty good thing. It will remove all the thrillseeking noobs (flavor of the month people), make it less crowded in Northrend at the start and quickly balance the population of Death Knights at 80 to about the same as other classes. If you played on a low pop server you know how few paladins and shamans were around respectively even a couple of months after release. The only people I feel bad for are the ones who are leveling new ones for their raiding guilds/ serious play, Hellfire Peninsula/Zangarmarsh is going to be awful for a while there.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

mxiro — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:25 GMT

Whining is the proffession of the future :)

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Lothaer — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:24 GMT

personally im not going to bother even trying to "unlock" the Death Knight, i am going to wait for a Healing Heroic Class preferably a Monk :P

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

h41fgod — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:23 GMT

Im trying the Deathknight sometime. Especially since the current way of "unlocking it" is having a character of a certain level, probably 70, on the account. But definetly not just after release, look at my last post. Warrior + Warlock is too sweet not to test. However. Besides, I think you will have to wait for a long time for a Monk type class though. Any theorycrafting on the next heroclass is bound to epic phailure. The only clue I know are that they have said that "it would be cool to include the heroes from warcraft 3". Considering that they just implemented a tank/dps/(caster) hybrid, a fair guess would be to say something opposite. Warden? Blademaster? Demon hunter? Bloodmage? Shadowhunter? Let the theorycrafting begin?

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Lothaer — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:22 GMT

I think it would be ideal if Blizzard released a minimum of 3 Hero Classes with WotLK a Caster/DPS, a Tank and a Healer.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

h41fgod — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:21 GMT

A healer/dps hybrid would be enough since the Deathknight is a tank/dps hybrid. But they wont do that, since even balancing the Deathknight against the other classes is going to make the devs cry. But if theres anyone that can balance it, its Blizzard, whatever people say, Blizzard is king of balance.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Hellarion — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:20 GMT

i remember when the rumors for bc started and besides the new races we were "supposed" to get the spellbreaker class. Wasn't Kael basically a spellbreaker in Warcraft 3? I know all my buds are sayin that spellbreaker or demon hunter will be the next hero class but i argue cause spellbreakers ingame now are like ret pallys and demon hunters ....would be basically a rogue. I'm hopin to see a pandaran or warden type class myself

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Lothaer — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:19 GMT

I think they should be a little bit more powerful than the regular classes but not too much so they are they "Hero" Class not "God" Class maybe well see god classes in a future expansion, i wonder how long until more hero classes are introduced, hopefully we wont have to wait for another expansion ^^

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Zeroes — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:18 GMT

I think there should be an option of different starting levels for the knight, such as 10, 20, 30... etc up to 55/60. Otherwise there will be an overwhelming influx of Death Knights and unless their gear is unsellable, or only worth a few copper, they will make a cash hog for easy money. Also since all the Death Knight armor is black or very dark, will that mean all plate armor will turn dark or that you can only equip Death Knight Plate? Interesting pondering.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Flawless101 — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:17 GMT

I don't mind the prospect of a new class, I think its quiet exciting. However, i do feel another 1 or 2 Hero classes available at WotLK release would "balance" things abit as far as the whining goes, along with the influx that will happen. Most people will want to try one.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

gormuu — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:16 GMT

I thought it would have been great to have to change a level 60 or 70 Character that you already have into a Death night. This way you would have to level a normal character before you "Go to the Hero side". This would keep the game balanced as you still have to level some character before you attempt to play a high level from scratch. I have seen a number of "bad players" from the lack of knowing how to play their characters properly. This transformation into a death knight would then be the next challenge as you would evolve the character.

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Prism — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:15 GMT

What's the point about getting a Hero Class if you can't add any more characters to the realm you're playing on? Blizzard already said they won't increase the amount of characters you can create per realm. I ain't deleting no chars I already have there...

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Lothaer — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:14 GMT

well then looks like your gonna have to create one on a different server or delete one. atm there is a max of 9 classes so just delete your double and that will be ur DK :P

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Darkerry — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:13 GMT

I think these hero classes aren't a very good idea. I mean, what's the point? If they're more powerful than normal classes, then it'll ruin the game for people who prefer the normal classes. If not, why not just make them a normal class instead of all this special 'hero' nonsense?

See what I mean?

2.3, Death Knights, Heroic requirements and more

Salsa — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:17:12 GMT

They are making "Hero" classes because they've realized there is a problem with intrducing new classes while their level cap keeps moving higher and higher.

I've gotten 5 chars to level 70 so far of different classes, and it's something that takes quite a fair amount of time. Most frustrating, when doing this on an established server, is the complete inability to actually do low level instances as the amount of people doing these are close to zero.

This makes leveling feel slower again, as it just feels like it goes faster while you do instances (Especially at lower levels you can easy gain almost a full level or so in one instance run).

The 'real' killer in leveling, though, happens when you get to about level 50. Nobody running the instances at all (as opposed to a few groups at lower level if you are lucky), and the instances at that range being what they are, people won't bother doing them below level 60 (or the average player feels they are too hard), yet when you are 60 there is no reason to do them, as the loot gained from outland is just so much better (Not to mention that you can already quest in outland at 58, and start grinding there as early as 56 if you are really dedicated). The jump from level 50 till you can get to outland is still a killer, though :(