Well the much anticipated game is here!!!! And WoW what a joke it is game wont patch.... Players that are lucky enough to get in game are stuck with 7-10k latency. While others that can patch cannot log in due to constant crashing!!! If I could do this decision again to waste $90 on the CE i would have left it at best buy!! Not to mention funcom has locked there forums to none-game owners to keep the public from seeing what is happening!! Do you think this is right? Because i sure dont!!

If you're having issues patching shut down your firewall and anti virus... as for the crashing and what not.. give them time.. the game is new... every single MMO that has been released has had issues with their servers and lag/over population. Get over it.

Seriosly dude, stop qqing and give the game some time.

Also, the problems you are experiancing, are not the norm. I have been playing 3 to 4 hours a day solid without a single disconect except when the servers cam down for maintinence. I wonder seriously if the person who psoted this has ever played anything at its release? This has been, without a doubt, the smoothest release I have ever seen.

Yeah, I have 30-50ms latency. 40 fps with 16x anti-aliasing and bloom. Fantastic, truly. Since the official launch, they have been down a total of 4-8 hours tops. I've been impressed.

Sounds like you played for mabye 1 hour total and didn't try again even once after the opening day rush was done. Speak for yourself with latency issues, sounds to me you just have a crappy computer. The 2 gigs of ram is the only requirement you cant skimp out on and go minimum with. As for servers crashing, seriously man, you think WoW was perfect upon release date. The games great, and it looks amazing, great replacement for any mmo you guys might be bored with.

Some places aren't working so well, but to post on opening day or for the week after about the single starting zone, for what turned out to be an insane amount of ppl, is fairly ridiculous. I'm going to bet you went w/ recommended specs on a game that works over pretty much any system. I'm not sure of my latency, but I do run from 45 - 65 fps regularly.

My game has been running smooth as butter! All is not pertfect but far better than a majority of MMORPG starts. Do you work for blizz btw?

how much is the monthly fee to play. i look at there site and checked but no luck could anyone tell me what the cost is on the monthly. the game looks sick and i think they put a lot of money and time into this mmorg so they have my attention thanks in advance

Sorry your stupid ass post made me have to register and respond to your because of the ignorance I was hearing I felt it was my civil duty to respond to you.

First off the download takes a long time, when your download 20 gigs off the internet depending on how much DL speed you have with your provider you might be in for a long download. Quick fix is to get better ISP or wait for the retail version DVD to arrive to install it.

Next as to your latency problems, I am sorry I haven't heard of anyone getting that much latency unless they don't live in the US which at this time it is a US and Euro retail game, although I am sure there will be servers in other countries soon.

My average latency is Norman, OK is typically 30-50ms which is great. I played WoW for 3 years and I was typically around 100-120ms.

Only thing I can say bad about this game is that you need a pretty good system to play it well. I bought a brand new computer 3 months ago with an integrated VCard and it didn't run the game well so I went out and bought a 1 gig 8500GT for 120 bucks and average around 30-50fps with medium graphics.

And speaking of graphics, holy cow the best I have ever seen. Lot's of realism here I feel like I am in a PS3 game cut scene movie all the time it is great. There are bugs I agree with other people but if a lot of your remember WoW when it first came out it was damn near unplayable for a few weeks and they have added tons and tons of stuff later on patch after patch for years to make it the game it is today. All I can say is give AoC a chance I know I am and my wife will be purchasing the game in a few weeks as well to play with me because she likes the graphics and realism the game provides.

The subscription is 15 bucks a month same as WoW and I think this game is a great alternative to Wo
W although I will buy WoW xpac I won't be playing it till then because I have already defeated most the end game content and my shaman already has netherdrake 10k gold and full season 3, I have nothing else to play for now the game is beat for me at the moment.

Give it a chance, be open minded to a new and different game and you won't be disappointed.

You can't possibly believe that the game is perfect with no bugs or any problems on second day of it's release, i mean, gosh! -.-'

Look this poster knows what he is talking about, this game blows hard! My room mate can't even get the patch (Last poster please read that PATCH not whole game download!) to download, the patcher program just keeps freezing up on him. Lets list the things that suck in this game shall we?

The chat interface blows!
The guild options are so limited that I don't even know why they put guilds into this game!
There are a TON of load screens all over this game, come on guys Lets do a WoW comparison, hown many times do you see a load screen in WoW?
Area Instances just plain suck, gee lets compare to WoW again, do you have to select different instance of any of their zones?

Now don't get me wrong I don't play WoW anymore because of their issues, but Sheesh it still beats the hell out of this messed up game. So typical of funcom to screw us over with stupid UI interfaces and terrible game/chat/guild options.

Jeeeeez, give it a chance!

And think about your "problems" with the game before you start throwing the toys out of the pram!

The chat interface, yeah it is a bit shoddy, but it'll be improved upon, infact the latest patch has improved it quite a bit!

The guild options are not limited, ok so it doesn't show you a list of your guildees other than putting them in your freind's list, but its a new system, its a work in progress!

The loading screens, it was built this way BY DESIGN! You CANNOT compare this to wow when the leap in graphics is so huge. It would be extremely hard to load all of the required content "on the fly" because there is a huge amount of it, unlike wow where the graphics are minimal so there isn't alot to load at any one time!

The instances are a genius idea (imo), it allows you to select between normal and epic mode, normal being for SOLO play and epic being for GROUP play, what is so wrong about that? And the numbered instances they have in the resource areas for example is to limit the number of people in one instance and therefore allow greater accessibility to the mobs and resources in the zone, rather than 10000 people all after the same things.

Sorry for the rant, but all these people slinging *** at a game which was released less than a week ago gets my back up.

"""Well the much anticipated game is here!!!! And WoW what a joke it is game wont patch.... Players that are lucky enough to get in game are stuck with 7-10k latency. While others that can patch cannot log in due to constant crashing!!! If I could do this decision again to waste $90 on the CE i would have left it at best buy!! Not to mention funcom has locked there forums to none-game owners to keep the public from seeing what is happening!! Do you think this is right? Because i sure dont!!"""

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Squirt those tears, sissy boy. I had no problems whatsoever installing, patching, updating or playing this game. Overall, despite what amounts to normal issues experienced with the launch of a game like this, I have found the AoC launch to be very, very stable. I must say, however, that they need to fix Traders pronto. This is the one issue I have with the launch that has met with my disapproval. That being said, I have extremely low latency and high fps. The graphics are wonderful!

The issue with the forums being locked to non-owners isn't an issue at all. I don't want a bunch of idiot trolls who don't even own the game spamming up my AoC forums with bullchit. Grats to Funcom for having the foresight to protect its customers in this regard.

Awesome game. I was reluctant to give up WoW without first spending a good deal of time on AoC. I've cheerfully canceled my WoW subscription. AoC is shaping up to be a truly wonderful game. Ignore the whiners, they're just doing what comes naturally.

Mine runs awsome. The only thing I dont like are the loading screens. But really, Im in a zone for so long that when I do need to go to another zone, its not so bad really. Loading screens are hours apart in my own experience.

By the way, the forums arent as bad as you think. Ya, theres gripes about issues, but FunCom is well aware of them. Its a new game, many bugs. And like any other game, the forums are chaulked full of WoW players saying how superior WoW is after playing AoC after 3 days of playing. If your not bored of WoW, dont play AoC. Me, I have 2 level 70s and many level 30s and cant bring my self to level them to 70 again. Im way to bored with WoW and AoC is a very welcome change. Im not saying its a perfect game, I agree with many people. The game has many things that need to be polished, chat being on of them. But I do love the game and FunCom will only make improvments as time goes on. Cant wait.

Basically, if your not truely bored with WoW yet, keep playing till you are, cause if not, your going to whine about what WoW has that AoC dont.

As for those wanting to try it out and are bored with WoW, I can tell you that AoC is really diferent from WoW or any other MMO Ive played. Combat is different, you cant let auto attack finish someone off thats low health, you have to press an attack direction to do your attacks. You have to see where the mobs defences are and make your choise on what way to attack. Healing classes arent all healing classes. They do damage. As a healer in most games I found this new system really different to me. Being able to bring down a rogue class or warrior with HoTs up and calling down lightining was different. Healers arent soft anymore, they fight back and are more fierce than in other games, they heal/somthing else. A priest in AoC heals and does AoE damage, CC or Melee, very different.

Basically what Im saying is if your really bored with WoW like I was and want a new formula to a game, try it out and give it time. It really grows on you, its really good I think.

No MMORPG has been perfect on startup, so DO NOT think that this will be, just a minor hint. :)

By Xotli, this complaining and degrading is a bloody nightmare for sets' sake !!

Don't these idiots understand that this is a new game, barely out of its nappies ?
How in all the hells can you compare it to a FULLY GROWN money grabbing machine like WoW ?

It will take a while for AoC to get all those little bugs ironed out and for it to drag it's *** off the floor onto it's own 2 feet, but, by god it's got the brains and bottle aplenty to do so quickly in my opinion.

AoC has by far had a WAY superior start to it's life than those upstarts, WoW, FFXi, Eve etc, all those games in their infancy where just plain woeful... Bugs by god, - they where infested.

I think it bodes well for the future, as long as Funcom can keep up the pace !

With hard work, good communication and a loyal group of players, funcom, in a year to 18 months, could have AoC hanging onto WoW's coat-tails, trying to pull the old man down and stomp on it's head !!

Oh, and another thing, I reckon, and by looking at the setup in the prog files, I'm pretty sure that customising the UI and making addons will be allowed and I propose encouraged by Funcom, so that seems that there's another thing less to moan about... twits !!

And another bloody thing, let's do another comparison WoW to AoC is like Bruce Lee to me..... bruce is dead, long live me !!

Most of WoW's realms crashed almost every 2 hours the first couple of days post release

Most of FFXIs servers were completely offline for about 3 days after release

New games have bugs and quirks and other problems that no beta could every catch.

If the problems are still around after a few weeks, then maybe you have a complaint

love it or leave it, as simple, but ffs stop the bloody whining....

patching worked more than fine, so maybe you should screw that 16.4kb modem

Most of my complaints with this game are interface issues. Its not scalable and seems to want to get in your way any chance it can. For instance looting puts big black bars on your screen. The other major problem is the stupid shield system. It is a great idea but needs to be easier and more responsive to control your personal shield. As it stands now its completely useless. Third biggest problem is that i can't use ctrl+alt+random key to make hotkeys on my mouse without it using the ctrl and alt buttons as if they were independent. All these things can be fixed and need to be fixed within the first 2 months imo. For now though this will replace wow cause i'm sick of wow but i'm still waiting for warhammer.
For the record i have had no problems on a technical level accept one major crash which might have been vista related and the occasional getting stuck. Other then that latency has been good and frame rates have been high even with DX10 active. That said i do have a new computer so i can't speak for how it would run on my old one at this point.

Edit: Didn't realize there was already a UI mod out will have to try it when servers are back up to see if it solves some of my problems.

There r allways ppl that have "duty" to cry for no use,well this is a situation that is very complicated,

1st This game is BIG inovation in MMO
2nd U cabt mesure it with WoW coz WoW is outdated for money "we" r paying monthly
3rd AoC is fresh game with g8 attitude for future MMO's - grafic,gameplay etc etc
4th personaly i dont have problems with DC or lag....and i have adsl 2mbit connection+am playing 7-8 hourc AoC per day.
5th ofc there will be 1000 of patches,there will be probably 2gb more of patches coz they will "kill" expliots and add some new fetures like LOG OUT button,diffrent UI,etc etc.

6th this is probably ur 1st mmo coz ur reaction is childlish.

over and out

Deadage...

1. What innovation? You mean because melee has to press funny buttons to attack? Because of the shields which are mostly impossible to work with at the same time as the attack buttons? AoC is NOT innovative, its wow with some tidbits added that are not worth a crap.
2. "U cabt mesure it with WoW coz WoW is outdated for money "we" r paying monthly" What does this mean? I'm going to guess you are suggesting wow is older than AoC. The nice thing about wow is the graphics they are really really good without overwhelming typical systems today.
3. "AoC is fresh game with g8 attitude for future MMO's - grafic,gameplay etc etc" how so? What great attitude? Do you mean the lame promises by their PR in the inverviews and such?
4. You don't have lag? You don't speak a word of truth? And you probably have never seen low fps. Mmmhm.
5. 1000 patches = beta.

Every user interface detail of this game has been ignored.
It should be less for free until it is out of beta.

I recommend 5/mo.

CoreTwo i have Good Fps and very low Ms... while at WoW till recently i had the double or triple ms of lag.

1) its more complicated yes. now you need something more than a good gear to top dps...if you cant handle it then im just sorry for you.

2)WoW can Have issues with low Fps at very good machines,while it gives crapy graphics.. so lol

3)i dont see promises my self.. i see improvments every single day. very good gm support ,i dotn even wanna remember about WoW gm's LOOOL!!

4)as i stated at stat..i have good fps (about 30ish-65fps) and VERY low Latency while at WoW i had alot more... (AoC 90-115ms,, WoW 130up to 2200ms? LOL)

5) 1000 patches isnt beta..is Funcom good care...should blizzard learn something by it. so Blizzard might not lose the rest of their subscribers for warhammer next time!
Oh and btw...i remember WoW at the first 3 months of release...omg what a joke it was... people falling endlesly from the sky unable to do anything for hours while waiting GM support(?!), Tons and Tons of Quests that we were unable to complete.... mobs Evading ...still, even now btw!and many MANY others problems...crashes.....LAG....omg it was terrible..and it was for more than 3 months of the realease and still they couldnt make it playible..while Funcom has fix alot more bugs/issues in what 1 month now? :p So LOL LOL AGAIN AND AGAIN.......

CoreTwo...lol and lol again and again like my friend sodade21 sayd :)

1000 patches IS beta, it defines beta. Beta, incomplete, overpriced.
You are saying that wow was beta to start also, this is irrelevant, whatever.

I have much experience with FC (f the customer) from Anarchy, I can tell you whats going to happen with AoC. They will smooth out some of the things which should have been done before release, then they will randomly poke at the code now and then, mostly ignoring the users comments on the forums, and at best, choosing a lame solution rather than the one bumped up 1000 times.

It's too bad FC takes a lame approach to customer service. I'd still be playing Anarchy today if it weren't for the clunky interface. Anarchy is a much much better game than Wow or Aoc, but they refuse to fix the interface bugs. Wow was a huge relief from the nonsense, a smooth interface, great graphics, addons to enhance the game like no other has ever done. But I got tired of the constant code mangling, screwing up the addons, hokey new area's, rep grinding to get one item. The biggest issue with wow is there's no player / guild city, nothing to fight for as a group.

I bet your shoes have no soles, but you are ok with them, because the manufacturer is still working on it. Maybe next patch...

Combat IS too keyboard intensive. The extra keypress system to perform attacks is workable, but to adjust your defenses at the same time? Ridiculous.

Once the initial investments in AoC are drained, the support will equal Anarchy and wow, game over.

Maybe War will get it right.