if this is the wrong section I appoglise in advance, but I am very curious to why we have to pay to avoid having to click each add-on one by one to update them, when "WoW Ace Updater" offered the auto update all add-ons at once for free, and this is a "Merge" so why should we have to pay to update all our addons at once, I mean we pay 15dollars for WoW, we pay for internet connection and the bandwidth we use, we have to pay for all these other services such as anti spyware, and anti virus can't we just have something decent for free for once?

I was very happy with the WOW ace updater because i'm disabled IRL I don't get much cash/money to begain with, and I can't work so my bills normaly break me and leave me with about 100dollars left, which then is used to pay for my wow account and buss tickets to deal with my clients (Software tech) or do my volunteer work

(not trying to give a guilt trip here) Its just my point is, I have 115.5 Mb's of addon's +

To help me play WoW comfortabley and to the visual likeness of my style, My disabilitys are visual and mis-fused right hand knuckles (and a few others) so having this many addons is required for me to play WoW to my liking and to make it more easy on me both visual and injured hands.

Can anyone please explain to why WoW Ace updater was free for auto updations but since you are merging you have decided to be greedy and want cash, what about us folks who have 100+addons and can't afford this extra fee to make our lives easyier?\

I am not tring to be rude or mean, but please a good explantion.

~SpiritWolfie

The WoWAce Updater was a cool tool to provide WoW players when only 20,000-30,000 people used it.  As its popularity grew, it became very expensive to support.  The bandwidth usage the updater caused rivaled even Curse.com's usage.  As it reached into the hundreds of thousands of users, it became clear that it was too costly of an application to realistically support.

We're still in the process of refining some of the features of the base Curse Client, because we know that even the free version needs to be something very useful to WoW players.

Is it going to be a one time fee or montly I hope it will be that I can manage to do a one time fee just not monthly.

I understand the bandwidth requirements, but Curse is heavily populated by advertisements. Those are supposed to keep the stuff working and generate incomes.

Addons updaters have for years used public available protocols and APIs (SVN, HG, others) that are built for heavy usage, so they're optimized for up/downloading. There was NO need to use a proprietary protocol. None beside to banish free developers to make a different updater. Hence to force people to use your own updater.

Your own updater will have a free version and a paid version, but why the paid one ? To have more features ? To support what it's already paid by advertisements ? I fear that any explanation will never be enough.

Last but not least, an updater is a thing built to update addons. Addon are FREE. They're made for free by people. The authors doesn't get a single penny for their work. They might get donations, but directly from the users (if they're kind enough).

So, let me summarize: the authors should upload their addons to Curse and Curse is receiving money (or is trying to) from the users. Much like if a singer would make a song, give it to an online music store that will charge money from the users BUT will not give money back to the authors. Anyone would say that this project is bound to fail. Others would simply say "screw you".

Again: you have a site full of ads. The ONLY thing you could even think to do is: pay or we'll put ads in the updater as well. Make the updating protocol public (it will be reverse engineered in no time anyway) and make the curse client SO good that everyone will use it no matter if there are free updaters as well.

THIS is how market applications works. You're just trying to do the other way: proprietary systems, like Micro$oft does. But you missed the most important point. ACE web site was a top hit because there was a lot of uber mod authors there. What are you going to offer to them to stick to curse and not rush somewhere else ? ACE web system was: 1) free, 2) fast, 3) worked, 4) open. Curse is 1) not free anymore, 2) slow, 3) bugged, 4) proprietary.

Have to say more ?

Have a good day and rethink your business model, if you was one of our students, you'd be kicked at the economy exams.

really...if you dont want to pay for the "auto-update" then dont pay; fact i personally think it's CRAP. the auto update is enabled by default for the 'preview time'. so what did it do when i updated Curse Client? yep, updated all my mods; breaking 2 of them (bongos 3 and ArcHUD). luckily i had an backup and was able to restore Interface and WTF.

now, you'll say "noob, just disable it". guess what...IT DOESN'T STAY DISABLED. everytime the damnable client starts up; "Auto Update" is checked, and when you uncheck it i get a firefox window popping up taking me to curse.com (no idea why; since it just the homepage).

so ya, curse client has been promptly removed from startup; and i doubt it will be used again until the preview time expires (since auto update will be enabled again)

PS: ya, i know 'goin all bonkers over nothing' well lets see how calm you are when you login 20min before the raid (because you got home later than usual) to find out your action bars are gone

PSS: Auto Update - HORRIBLE IDEA; not all mods are 100% working when uploaded here, shouldn't force users to constantly update to buggy updates (assuming auto update will always re-enable itself at client startup)

none of my ad-ons have broke, when the updater ran it updated them and hell it actaully fixed most of mine, I am just wondering if its going to be a one time fee or monthly. as for arzach's comment, I fully 100% agree,

as to Simulo, I'ms orry it messed up your add-ons and I for one happen to enjoy the auto update funtion, chances are the udpates I get work I have yet to get a update that breaks anything but I've been using a very spefic types of add-ons since i've started "WoW" back in devolpment "Phase"

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as to Simulo, I'ms orry it messed up your add-ons and I for one happen to enjoy the auto update funtion, chances are the udpates I get work I have yet to get a update that breaks anything but I've been using a very spefic types of add-ons since i've started "WoW" back in devolpment "Phase"

the only reason it breaks is because for Bongos 3 only a few of the libraries where updated, which break it (not sure why). but since it's the 'latest version' the auto-updater downloads it.

on the bright side, the 'breakage' forced me to start using Dominos (which i didn't want to use since it was in beta still :X ).

but ya, auto-updates for addons for any game is a bad idea; i've had some updates that trigger WoW to 'dump' the WTF's SVs so i end up losing all the positions/settings of mods, but when i copy over a backup it's fine *insert a wtf, blizzard*

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Originally Posted by SpiritWolfie

as to Simulo, I'ms orry it messed up your add-ons and I for one happen to enjoy the auto update funtion, chances are the udpates I get work I have yet to get a update that breaks anything but I've been using a very spefic types of add-ons since i've started "WoW" back in devolpment "Phase"

 

the only reason it breaks is because for Bongos 3 only a few of the libraries where updated, which break it (not sure why). but since it's the 'latest version' the auto-updater downloads it.

on the bright side, the 'breakage' forced me to start using Dominos (which i didn't want to use since it was in beta still :X ).

 

but ya, auto-updates for addons for any game is a bad idea; i've had some updates that trigger WoW to 'dump' the WTF's SVs so i end up losing all the positions/settings of mods, but when i copy over a backup it's fine *insert a wtf, blizzard*

I must be lucky then, I have yet to have it dump any of my positions or settings etc. but like I said I use a very selected set of add-ons, and My question still hasn't really been answared. is it going to be monthly or a one time fee or can someone link me to the premuim info for it?

1. this site is ugly, why i have to come back here after 3 years passed elsewhere (ace or wowint)?

2. i loved ace guys' work.

3. reading these post it seems there will be a fee for update addons. i cant find a word to explain my disappoint. maybe 'pointless' works.

4. autoupdate always worked with ace stuff. i dont use ANYTHING BUT BAGNON non-aced.

5. i got a mac.

Kappesante, we do have a beta mac client, http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseClientSetup-2.0.0.13.dmg

honey why do i have to download that?

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all this stuff sux. i hope another website will offer something better. i didnt remember this website so bad. bad, but not so much. maybe my memories arent so good, it's 3 years i dont came here.

u cant decide how much money give to authors, becouse many useless stuff here are copies or unoffical updates or mods, or something. u cant have the excusive to distribuite addons. u cant talk about bandwith to pay, when your website is full of ads. i will NEVER pay for this, as i never paid for jwowupdater. it worked really good, using standard and open api. and now the community will be again more and more separated. take a tour on the old ace forums.