Hello there iam going to start lvling my third alt :) and i will take Mining and Herbalsim so is there any addon can help me spot them both on minimap i already use gather and gather mate but i still see embty icons even if there is herbs or mining any advice thx.

Those addons show where herbs CAN spawn, it doesn't mean they will always be there. Herbs and veins always have several spawn spots, for veins I know it's about 5 possible spots for 1 spawn, aka, you see 5+ spots from your gatherer info, but at only 1 spot it will spawn at any time.

Next to this, there are a lot of other peeps lvling those skills, maybe they gathered before you did.

ofc i know that but what i meant the icon of gather on minimap still an empty icon even when there is herbs or mining...so in this way i cant track both of them i can only see yellow dot of what iam tracking, i just need an addon to track both of them on minimap

You can only track one at a time. Althought you can use a macro for easy switching.

Use  as the macro icon.

 #Show tooltip
/castsequence Find Herbs, Find Minerals

Well iam using Spotter now its not bad addon it change the track button auto every 3sec :) but only 1 problem it work when u are in combat and u can stop it anyway thx all

You don't need both Gatherer and GatherMate; they are mutually exclusive. Pick one, and don't forget to download the WowHeadDB file that is appropriate.