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wowo sounds like the majority of people "end users" want WowMatrix back they way it was and are pledging to still not do what you want . . . so what do you do now?
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 12:33 PM
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Curse is crap. The load of problems it causes is not worth the hassle. I will be uninstalling any mods that are only hosted by Curse. I would rather use alternate addons. Then deal with CC. Sad that with all the changes Blizz is doing to addon makers about donations that you guys would pull this on patch day no less. Real low class. Another thing is wow matrix would point me to your website, when i needed details about the addon. Then I would look around. Not any more.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 1:06 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by CobraA1 
. . . and while we're at it - if Curse and WoW interface are putting their heads together, why is WoW interface creating a separate updater?
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 2:01 PM
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I have yet to use CC, but from what I'm reading, I'm not sure I want to. I want to spend my time playing my characters, not manually updating all the adds I have!! WM made it simple, run and easy. I could wait 3 days after a patch, and my 100+ add ons were updated in a few minutes. If it were my site that someone were sharing with the world at the push of a button, I'd be tickled pink. That would let people know that I'm out there. However, it seems that common sense isn't involved in this decision.
I love WM, and will probably just learn to get around in the game without the adds Curse and WI have decided to keep from me. Even though they made my game play easier and more enjoyable, I'd rather not deal with a site that has made a decision for me as to what I can or can't use! I hate being "forced" to make a decision, and atm that's what I feel you're doing. Trying to make players decide to either use your site, or don't use the add on. I'll take the latter
We all start at the bottom, contrary to what some might think.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 2:39 PM
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Well, in that case Wowmatrix should fix their small problems.
What wow matrix are doing when updating the addons also includes editing them and changing them in a way the author did not intend to do with the addon.
So, wowmatrix basiclly Changes the addon ... ..
Anyways, Ive ALWAYS used Wowmatrix but now ive started to use Curse Client, im still thinking wich I think is best.
But I will tell you all one example, lets say you guys or girls use Auctioneer, and let Wowmatrix update it, its the LATEST version, so this means it may be BETA version...
While using BETA versions when it comes to Auctioneer, it may show incorrect prices, making you end up loosing Gold. example.
QuestHelper, doesnt use BETA V. normally, but lets say they do, and wowmatrix updates it, the locations it may direct you to may be incorrect.
While using Curse client you can choose if you want to DL the Beta, release or the Alpha versions.
I recommend ALWAYS downloading Release versions since these are stable to the current version of the game, normally.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 6:19 PM
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They say Curse and WOWInterface are working together but CC did not and will not update Lightheaded which is a WOWInterface product. If they are "working together" why can't CC update a WI mod? That is only one example. I want WM back. It was much easier and so much better that having to use mutiple clients to get and manage my mods.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 6:36 PM
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Edited for colorful ridiculous language.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 6:50 PM
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Edited for flaming/trolling/baiting.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 7:45 PM
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Edited for trolling/flaming/baiting.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 10:08 PM
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we need WowAceUpdater back, nothing else.
its sad that you guys dont understand how great that tool was. Wowmatrix will never be this good.
and curse, shame on you. stop being selfish assholes and do what the community want. if you want the community to use your tool or your site to update their addons, dont deliver such crap!
If you want someone to program a real tool for you, feel free to contact me to talk about prices for real software.
dont you guys understand that the authors of most addons just dont want to support your shitty site thus they dont upload them to it? enjoy your outdated addons + library conflicts due to shitty updater from a shitter coder of a shitty website.
enjoy.
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 10:10 PM
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Lets be 100% clear on something... WoW Matrix is a hack and a half!....2 months after me and my friends started using it suddenly all of us on the SAME day suddenly lost all our toons gold and gear. Do not use it! WoW matrix will take your acounts and make swisscheese of them!
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Sun, Apr 19 2009 11:12 PM
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instead of complaining about curse why don't you all complain to WoW matrix and get them to host the addons. Why should websites hold and share files for a program that has no affiliation with their website, or a program that does not help pay the websites running costs. Should Limewire have access to Apples Music Store? definately not!!. Or for all of you complaining how about you team up with WoW Matrix and share your own bandwidth, bet most of you wouldn't. Most of you are all self-centred selfish whingers.
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 12:08 AM
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When do you think you'll have a version of your "BETTER" client that works with the most up to date version of OS X? Never? Because Mac Users don't play WoW? Because no way could a mac play the game with superior graphics and speed? Thanks CC for ruining my update schedule.
I understand that you were pissed that someone figured out the code faster then you, but if you're going to pull the plug, why not wait til you had all your bases covered so you'd gain something from it. So when will a mac version be ready?
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 4:31 AM
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16 pages of talking and still not a single word about how will wowi and curse cooperate on providing their users half as good experience as wowmatrix did. I'm still waiting for replies in the thread I created five days ago. Why should anyone think that curse actually cares about anything but making money off their users? It's quite obvious that providing their users with best experience is last of their conserns.
 Quote: Originally Posted by gwonk190  Lets be 100% clear on something... WoW Matrix is a hack and a half!....2 months after me and my friends started using it suddenly all of us on the SAME day suddenly lost all our toons gold and gear. Do not use it! WoW matrix will take your acounts and make swisscheese of them!
Riiight. Ever heard how many people have gotten keyloggers from Curse?
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 5:46 AM
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It is extremely funny if you read through thius entire thread any remote stab at WM and support for WM involves complete lies!
Every single negative comment regarding WM is a lie.
Every Single recomendation of CC is based on a negative coment regarding WM.
This post is telling Curse that its behaviour is unaccpetable curse has responded by doing nothing (this is covered in a previous post)
WM doesnt Steal Bandwidth WM doesnt steal/hack your game your pc or your gold!
Curse is accused by the WOW Comunity as a whole as a greedy monopolising cartel and for that should be flammed endlessly and sincerly hope you run out of money so you cannot afford to pay for your crappy editorial content! that not a single person has supported.
If curse is so expensive just remove all the crap from the website and do nothing else other than host addons your bandwidth will be reduced dramatically becuase no one will need to download the crappy graphics and the crapp text.
BTW no one menioned the fact the WoWace was cool until CURSE cocked that aswell
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 5:46 AM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by tyfavre004 
 Quote: Originally Posted by CobraA1 
. . . and while we're at it - if Curse and WoW interface are putting their heads together, why is WoW interface creating a separate updater?
Own'd. Thread over.
You've obviously not read the announcement on WoWI. If you did, you
would have noticed that the updater is extendible, meaning that a
plugin can be written to support Curse very easily.
Lots of flames in this thread. All I have to say is this:
The admin's word is final. This isn't a democracy, it's the internet.
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 6:09 AM
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So what your saying is that Curse is a dictator ship and we should all shut up and our opinions are irrelevant?
Well maybe you will eat those word's DWSR as i find you comment extremely short sighted and downright rude! your previous posts have been utter trash as well.
May all authors and any one else using WM pls notice the following which is a announcement from WM!
Hope you enjoy! this message it comes up with any addon from curse or wowinterface:
This particular addon 'Ackis Recipe List' cannot be installed or updated at this time, because it is being hosted at either curse or WOWinterface.
Both of these websites do not wish to have updater's connect to there sites, and have deliberately blocked updater's from doing so, starting right on the day of the 3.1 patch.
Although we do not agree with the actions of these sites, we respect their position in this matter, and are working on ways to bring you a quality selection of Addons with out connecting to thses sites.
If 'Ackis Recipe List' comes with a free dirstibution license (such as a GPL, BSD, Public Domain, etc.) let us know and we should be able to get it back online relatively quickly by hosting it on our own servers.
Otherwise , if you know the author of 'Ackis Recipe list', you may get in touch with them and see if they would like to host there Addon(s) on our servers, and have them contact us if they do.
In the mean time thank you for your patience and understanding.
Please excuse any spelling errors i had to type it out!
I would like to draw you attention to the fact there is no flamming on the part of WM they havent made any coments regarding how much better there client is to others they have extended an olive branch and i am sure will reap the benefits ten fold.
I fear soon DWSR will have to rant at other authors admins etc as there will be no need for anyone else to visit Curse.
LONG LIVE FREEDOM LONG LIVE THE INTERNET!
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 7:22 AM
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All I can say is, it's a damn shame. Curse and WowInterface are forcing the WoW Community into spending huge amounts of time updating mods instead of playing the game. Please put aside whatever agenda you're associating with this decision and allow WoW Matrix to use your site. Or... build your own WoW Matrix... It's just that great - updates in literally seconds.
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 8:37 AM
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wowmatrix made it easy and fast for me to check my addons and now im not sure how to do it and it has made my gaming less enjoyable i joined your site and cant even figure out how to do the addons all so you can make money on us visiting your site you know greed is one of the 7 deadly sins. mabey if everone contacted wow and had them all baned then you site would not be needed you should work with all downloaders to make our gaming more enjotale and easier
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Mon, Apr 20 2009 8:55 AM
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you know greed is one of the 7 deadly sins.
Yeah. Listen, that's not really a compelling business argument, there. My suggestion is that you give the Curse Client a try. It'll go alot further than trying to suggest punitive action against Curse, for the crime of trying to make money.
Just so your expectations are properly set, be aware that the client will only update Curse-hosted addons. The other ones, from WoWInterface, for example, you'll have to get on your own until the WoWI folks wake up and work with Curse to build a unified updater. Oh, and even that won't help with updating addons not hosted on either site.
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