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Wed, May 13 2009 9:51 AM
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How many addon site tried to charge and found it just wont work??? Curse your next!
I have a complaint, you say u get faster downloads with curse premium, thats may be true seen as you have drastically cut to free account download rates its appauling.
If you offered faster than the (as was) free account then you may have something but all you have done is take it all away and charge its silly and a bit underhanded!
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Wed, May 13 2009 10:20 AM
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why are people bitching so much about the dl speed on free? if its running that slow on your maybe ya need a better connection,mine still dls fast enough.
and about giving authors some,if you start depending on a videogame addons to make a living for yourself you really got some problems,go get a REAL job and start playing this back when you were playing it for fun and taking a break from your life
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Wed, May 13 2009 2:42 PM
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Oh my god, well I am so sorry for expressing my opinion, my download time from curses servers has significantly slowed since they began to charge, its not imagination, its not my system its not my connection its the upload rates from curses servers. Jesus do we only have people on forums these days that mouth off without knowledge?
Trust me pal im one of a few hundred people in the UK that actually understand this as most of the infrastructure was built by people like me.
Check your facts!
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Wed, May 13 2009 4:55 PM
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My download speeds are incredibly fast... and I do it all manually... I'm with Stimie... enough of the complaining and everything... Curse mad a product, and a choice.. you're not forced to use it or anything..
Its like complaining about the cost of gas.. and yet, you don't *HAVE* to drive... its a convenience... conveniences come at a premium..
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Wed, May 13 2009 7:11 PM
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You know, I usually only have to update one or two addons at a time, and that's usually only once or twice a week. And I dont really care about Beta keys, so the free service is awesome for me. Now, there are those out there that run so many addons that they need to update simultaneously, because its so time consuming to do so manually, and there are also those out there that want the exclusive betas, so Premium is awesome for them. Honestly, they could have just made the client premium only, and made you download addons from the site and install manually, but they didn't, so stop whining about it.
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Thu, May 14 2009 4:23 AM
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i run in eccess of 250 to 300 addons (atleast by looking at the sub dirs in my addons folder, give or take) give or take a few, hardly think i need to post a list of them here... but yeah agreed with Bledandbeaten, usually i only have to update no more than usually 5 at any given time so the premium version is useless to me... interesting to note that curse's website also doesnt include ALL of the addons available for wow that are out there, given that that is quite a feat to actually organise on a day to day basis depending on how often they themselves update their addon updates... still in that respect, i really wouldnt feel like paying for a service that doesnt cover my every need, thers atleast 50-60 addons that i run which curse doesnt have on its website but wowinterface does... perhaps an interesting and valid point if ur thinking that thhe premium client will download ever mod available out there... food for thought...
download speed wise, well im capped atm so yeah EVERYTHING is slow lol when i wasnt tho i did notice a slight drop in speed while updating and refreshing addon lists available for download, but the decrease was insignificant with all things considered... doing it manually is just as good imo :)
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Thu, May 14 2009 6:30 AM
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thank you dear Curse project for your client, it's really beauty.
but..
if ppls spend some cash to play the game, it's not mean they able to pay for other game related things..
sadly, but it's a time to rollback to alternative update software.. for me.. and for all my guild.. and for other my friends.. i'm asked all my friend list.. just iteresting..
noone will pay for it..
most ppl in russia dont have money that are we ready to spend for such utils..
i'll perefer to switch to something other.. yeah, maybe they are bad, ugly, may modify addons as scary stories says.. but addons are updated.. and works..
it's a nasty to click 'update' for 20+ addons.. some of mates have 40 and more..
anyway curse website is up and running, it's not so bad to reload one buggy (if such impossible thing happens) manually..
thank you for all
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Thu, May 14 2009 6:32 AM
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you using 20+ adoins to play this game then you ot some other major problems
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Thu, May 14 2009 6:33 AM
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addons make you stupid btw
try having natural skills like me and use your brain
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Thu, May 14 2009 6:37 AM
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yeah, most addons like questhelper makes gamer stupid.
but there is some addons, life without such are much harder..
like XPerl and DBM or BigWigs..
this two addons can be updated and without premium...
thats why i still use Curse Client. but, who knows. click two times to update when u can click once it's.. mm.. ;p
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Thu, May 14 2009 5:28 PM
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I am not going to debate the worth of addons other than to say that Blizzard encourages their development, and to that end uses the Lua language which is very easy to code.
What I would like to point out is the "previously free" version someone mentioned above was a Preview Version of the Premium Client; this was publicly announced all over Curse, again when people installed the software, and there was a reminder at the bottom every time you ran the software that it was a Preview version.
The Premium version does indeed download addons faster (if that matters to you) compared to the Basic version, but that's because Curse "turned off" or "disabled" or [insert your favourite equivalent] those features in the Basic Version.
Users did who used the Preview and are now using the Basic version knew this. Think of it this way: back in September, Curse could have had the Basic and Premium Clients at the same time, without having a Preview. Really, you gained six months of Premium for nothing, and in fact, did not lose anything.
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Fri, May 15 2009 5:00 AM
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Your updater is against the EULA and as soon as blizzy know it the problem will be solved.. till now it is anyway not a problem.. I just made my own updater, it works, no problem at all......
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Fri, May 15 2009 7:08 AM
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Why is everyone complaining so much? It's not like they are asking for a lot of money. And things still download fast enough that you can stick with regular without too much problem. The premium is a convenience that does not have to be offered. I agree, by giving the preview they gave everyone a free glimpse of premium. Buy why anyone would complain about ~30 a YEAR I have no clue.
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Fri, May 15 2009 10:05 AM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by Laurenel 
Why is everyone complaining so much? It's not like they are asking for a lot of money. And things still download fast enough that you can stick with regular without too much problem. The premium is a convenience that does not have to be offered. I agree, by giving the preview they gave everyone a free glimpse of premium. Buy why anyone would complain about ~30 a YEAR I have no clue.
I'm not complaining at all... I'm just saying that charge an amount for something related to wow addon is forbidden and so as soon as Blizzy know it (and a lot of ppl just work for this to be know) this will end, I'll hope for you premium user that curse will refund the amount of the subscription. Apart from this as I told this is just my thoughts... I have my own updater.. it works perfectly.. so no need of wowmatrix.. curse.. or whatever else :)
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Fri, May 15 2009 10:17 AM
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Ya Blizz does not like charging for addons. Look at carbonite. They had a free version and a paid version. Now they only have a free version and can only accept donations. I know several people that use 20 plus addons that can barely afford to play WOW. Now they are expected to spend 30 min clicking on each addon to update it. They cant afford to pay for Premium services. I think this was a bad idea for curse and they will eventually get caught by Blizz and stopped. I still use Curse now but i dont like the way they screwed everybody. They took away form everyone instead of adding things for the paid service. :(
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Fri, May 15 2009 10:46 AM
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I have stayed out of this entire debate right from the start but I really have to chime in on the current line of argument.
This is to anyone whom wishes to reply: Please point out any addon that is hosted on the Curse.com site that is only available to premium users and not to the general user base? Any addon will do just please back up your comments with concrete examples.
Here is the thing, if Curse.com (or Wowinterface) was denying access to an addon to nonpaying subscribers then, YES, they would be violating the new UI policies set out by Blizzard but since they offer each and every addon free of charge to any visitor to this site they are NOT violating said policy. There are many, many good points on both side of this argument but if you are going to accuse someone of something you MUST supply proof of your accusation and not just voice your disdain of their business practices.
Live with it or move on.
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Fri, May 15 2009 10:59 AM
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The free downloads aren't all that slow... To be honest I don't see much of a difference between now and a few weeks ago when everyone was on premium.
FWIW I'm on a 20/5 FiOS connection.
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Fri, May 15 2009 6:54 PM
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IMHO, if the forums had an age limit saying "No one under 16," 99% of these complaints would dissappear.
The fact of the matter is that they provide a service and ASK, not demand, but ASK, that you pay for an improved version if you feel so inclined. They don't have to do this.
They are also in complete compliance with the EULA and the TOS, being that they do not charge for thier addons, just the improved version of thier updater. (In turn, a share of those profits are DONATED to authors, as I understand it.)
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Sat, May 16 2009 6:06 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by teek5449 
I have stayed out of this entire debate right from the start but I really have to chime in on the current line of argument.
This is to anyone whom wishes to reply: Please point out any addon that is hosted on the Curse.com site that is only available to premium users and not to the general user base? Any addon will do just please back up your comments with concrete examples.
Here is the thing, if Curse.com (or Wowinterface) was denying access to an addon to nonpaying subscribers then, YES, they would be violating the new UI policies set out by Blizzard but since they offer each and every addon free of charge to any visitor to this site they are NOT violating said policy. There are many, many good points on both side of this argument but if you are going to accuse someone of something you MUST supply proof of your accusation and not just voice your disdain of their business practices.
Live with it or move on.
Sorry to say this is the wrong point of view. We have to prove absolutely nothing, I found something that under my point of view is against EULA, so as a lot of other people just wrote an email to Blizzy to notify it. Blizzy will surely analize this situation and if you are right.. so.. my apologies.. otherwise I really think you've something to explain.. and to refund also. Anyway as told.. for me it's only a matter to remain at window and see who stand on the right side.. I've just made my own udpater .. and it works fine (and no.. avoid to pm me.. I'll not give it), we'll see how this will finish ;)
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Sun, May 17 2009 2:02 AM
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As one of the mods said on another thread (don't remember which one), Curse has already contacted Blizzard. Blizzard doesn't have a problem with the premium service, Curse isn't charging to get addons, just giving people an alternative to get faster d/l and the update all capability, plus some other bonuses.
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