User Interface & Addons

Re: WOWMatrix

shinynewac — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:22:33 GMT

For twenty four pages we’ve allowed the community at large to express their concerns, opinions, ideas, thoughts and often-- their emotional outbursts regarding the action Curse took to protect its bandwidth and revenue.

Some of this discussion has in fact been positive, however it appears the discussion has moved more into the name calling, trolling and baiting arena as of late. It’s become counterproductive.

For those of you who support Curse and believe in what we have done, thank you. We are working diligently daily to deliver a quality product.

For those individuals who are angry with Curse and who have stated they will be using some other add-on client, we wish you the best. We would hope that when we do release the new client you’ll at least give it a try.

Thank you to all those who chimed in and do feel free to use the forums for which they were intended. We've been fairly lax in moderating comments with namecalling, baiting etc. But I suspect those days are now a distant memory.

Re: WOWMatrix

growup — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:52:11 GMT

I will still use wowmatrix. They still update some addons and those they don't I have found alternatives that they do host. Their list of hosted addons seems to be growing every day also. For the couple that don't have an alternative and I don't want to do without just right click on the addon name and choose "visit official web page". It will take you straight to a download page to update it manually. All of the pages I have tried were curse or wowinterface download pages but it saves the time of going to their site and doing a search.

This does seem to show they were using other sites bandwidth which I can understand the concerns over. However, the bottom line for me is it works, it has caused me no problems (unlike every single other updater I have tried), it is simple and doesn't do anything except what I want it to. Even with the interruption in some of their service I remain a happy wowmatrix user.

Re: WOWMatrix

artjrk — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:31:42 GMT

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SUPPORTING PowerPC Macs!!

Plain and simply this is the reason I used MoWMatrix. They supported my PowerPC Mac and Curse did not and still does not.

I used to come to Curse to find new add ons and Used WoWM for the updating.

Re: WOWMatrix

Aytius — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:21:28 GMT

curse client doesn't work for me, it just doesn't...WOWM does...plain and simple

Re: WOWMatrix

Erindae — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:16:00 GMT

Sounds to me like Curse is trying to get rid of any competition and make this a pay site for your addons... thats my best bet, all good free sites eventually start making you pay. Greed consumes all -_-

also, if the real problem is authors angry that wowmatrix isnt giving them enough credit i beg to differ, the sites and names of all the authors are on each addon
im really going to be sad if curse continues to block WowMatrix, it is the best user friendly AddOn program there is, and the thought of having to go back to manually updating my addons is scary.
I mean i only run Cartographer, Questhelper, and Atlas loot (Luckily only Cartographer is supported by Curse), but when you get home and want to get into wow you can just open wowmatrix quickly check for updates/update and then you can go ahead and launch wow right from the Wowmatrix program, then it shuts down automatically right when wow pops up, No worry about moving files/having programs up in the background. It is quick/easy and puts your mind to rest knowing it will take care of things for you.

I just really hope Curse doesnt become the Curse of AddOns...

Re: WOWMatrix

crp5591 — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:34:11 GMT

If Curse.com is going to be petty and divisive by not allowing WoWM to connect to it, then they should at least offer viable alternatives.. such as SUPPORTING PowerPC Macs!! I have read and heard many times over that that the CC is inferior to WoWM, but since I can't even run it, how would I know?

Curse... get off your high horse and work out your disagreements with the WoWM devs. By working together, you will garner more good will from the community at large. In the meantime, I will continue to use your bandwidth to download add ons and not bother spending time on your site. Before, I would come to curse.com to read articles, read up on add ons, and use it as a neat gaming portal even though I used WoWM to keep my add ons up to date.

Re: WOWMatrix

kagaro — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:07:31 GMT

that removeal crap is enough to make me want to go change all my addon licenses to NON GPL so they cant even host newer version I make.

Re: WOWMatrix

Spookie — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:13:38 GMT

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Addons were made by the community to enhance the WoW experience and you come in and wreck the most user friendly addon updater out there.

Bad for you good for the creators of addons getting their copyright ripped out of their files.

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22697 :)

Re: WOWMatrix

milney — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:18:15 GMT

Responsible management would have made sure a reliable downloading client was available for all systems before blocking one of the only clients that work for some. I can tell you that the "beta" version of the curse downloader for Mac is absolutely atrocious ranking right at the level of completely unusable. I will go to the individual websites for updates before I ever install that garbage on my computer again. I can understand the reasoning behind the move, but Curse spit in the face of many of it's users by not having their "ducks in a row" before cutting ties with one of the only reliable downloaders without offering a viable alternative. Good Job.

Re: WOWMatrix

korrosive — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:09:20 GMT

Well tbh im very happy with the curse client atm, tried it a year ago and it pretty much failed, but gave it the benefit of the doubt this time.

Ive not used wow matrix before but if they were using add on's without the authors permission that aint a good thing.

Re: WOWMatrix

Gryphon22 — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:16:51 GMT

Ah... so this is the reason WoWMatrix isn't updating my addons anymore. What a bunch of <edit> you are Curse. I have always disliked your site layout and on top of that I never, EVER pay attention to the ads on your site. WoWI's site is just as bad as your own, don't think I am just gonna pick on you. Neither one of you designed your sites for functionality, but instead went for graphically impressive. Then you come and have the nerve to complain about your bandwidth costs? Honestly.

You two sites roll in and think you can decide what we players have to use to update our addons easily? First, how about making your site less fancy and going for functionality. Second, how about making an updater that correctly detects addons. Third, how about making an updater that doesn't corrupt players addon folders. I would guess that these issues never entered your minds when you decided that WoWMatrix was the bad guy, right? You couldn't, with *all* that money you make from your ads, buy WoWMatrix's software? Oh, that's right. You don't actually care about the community, you care about trying to make money off of your poorly designed site. Then you start advertising to us that you are making some kind of Premium Package. Who do you think is honestly going to pay for this? I don't know a single person who would pay a site to download addons that were made to be distributed freely to the community.

Addons were made by the community to enhance the WoW experience and you come in and wreck the most user friendly addon updater out there. Bravo. I'm sure your business is just going to boom after this decision.

For everyone who is going to reply to this that Curse and WoWI need to cover their bandwidth costs, don't think I do not already know this. I understand how it works. I am, however, calling bullcrap on WoWMatrix taking up more bandwidth than Curse's own downloader does. This isn't about bandwidth, and it never has been. This is about an independent developer creating a better program than Curse is capable of creating. Maybe Curse will turn this around and create a great downloader, but at the rate that CC is going... well, I don't see it happening in the forseeable future. Blizz is more likely to integrate addon features into the game faster than Curse will be able to create a working downloader.

On that note, I am done with this post. I really hope you do something about this situation Curse, because atm you guys are public enemy #1 in many WoW players eyes. As you should be right now.

Re: WOWMatrix

Yellowcrown — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:55:26 GMT

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In the end it's the user community that has suffered by this. Whether curse has a business case or not most users that endure needless pain from a company have long memories. You might recall the Sony rootkit, I do.

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I recall the Sony rootkit as well, though I don't believe it's comparable in this case. Sony did something that was borderline illegal by putting software on CDs that put a rootkit on computers. They did this without the knowledge or permission of those who purchased the CDs. Curse, however, simply took steps to prevent an addon manager that had been asked not to use their resources from cintinuing to do so. They installed no software on anyone's computer in a shady way, or without the user's permission.

You're welcome to your opinion of Curse and WoWI. I think it is inaccurate, at best, to claim that either site acted out of malice.

I am not comparing the actions of Sony to those of Curse and WoWI. I am trying to illustrate the feelings the user community may have towards a company that treats it so poorly.

Re: WOWMatrix

shinynewac — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:05:35 GMT

The omgcursesucksihateyoualldieomgwowmx thread will be closing quite soon.

Re: WOWMatrix

Spookie — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:49:42 GMT

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... WOW who should you be partnered with ???

Option C, the authors?

Re: WOWMatrix

Spookie — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:48:23 GMT

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We won't know for sure unless both sides tell us exactly what transpired.

But by christ you'll draw some closed minded conclusions anyway.