This is my reason for terminating my AoC account. I played for about 6 weeks, been away for a bit, just came back to officially cancel my AoC account and warn those who have not wasted their money yet on this game.

1. Ganked by much higher level jerks. Crybaby? I like PvP, love to destroy a lvl22 when I'm only 20. Having a 30 kill a 20 and then again a few minutes later, and again... this demonstrates poor game design.
2. No on screen DPS.
3. Lame auction house, see wow auctioneer for details. There is aboslutely nothing interesting or innovative about the AoC economy. Its just dumb.
4. Tiny bag space.
5. Cannot unequip tiny over priced bags.
6. Cannot resize screen elements like the giant quickbar and tiny minimap.
7. Not enough post offices.
8. Restricted addon development.
9. Lack of list mode for things like backpack, do you really think I want to mouse over every single item to see its details?
10. The special keypress system to attack is not an innovation, it is a stupidity which you didn't even develop properly. If the attack requires UL UL UR then show that on screen where it currently shows UL UR. Anyone who thinks this key thing is great is lying or just too stupid to be allowed to speak. Those who master the key thing are most exploiters.
11. I've said enough.

Did you not learn anything at all from Anarchy?
You completely ignore past experience.
AoC = retardation.

*** ***. Go back to WoW and leave the mature games to the mature audiences.

All of your "QQ"'s are quite valid. Conan does leave quite a lot to be desired. The combo system is awesome for PvE but it is awful for PvP. In all honesty I will not miss you at all, but can understand your point. I tried to go back to wow and it was so ghey and slow motion feeling i cancelled right after the 2+ hour install and patch download process, went right back to conan. Even with conan's problems it is superior to any other MMO out right now, in my opinion.

Bare breasts and beheading are for mature audiences, true.

Funcom has remained a childish in software development.
AoC players childish minds have been hypnotized by hype.

Hype-borian adventures? Funcom laughs at you, Tsuujin.
And everyone who blindly follows their badly coded disaster of a MMO.

I just quit also, after those so call 'new and mature' contents get old in about a month and a half....
it was fun at start.. but too many mundane bugs, too many things that just not work wearing me down.

I know it's a new game but you could learn from other product in the market, and make it work.
Like the original poster said... why does Funcom need tons of user complaints to start thinking about changing auction house, chat system, quest system etc.?

customer support is very bad also. if they're hiring GMs.. they need to do it faster and give them more power. waiting 4-5 hours or more to chat with representative that tell you to email technical support is lame.. and the email never get anything back except 'canned' reply. very very disappointed.

fix those stuffs make it work, i might consider reactivate my account..
like many people said 'I don't want to pay to beta test'....

And I don't go back to WoW coz that's another boring activity....

I love seeing all the bitches quit makes the game better

I've played many MMO's and never found the need to chat with a GM. What is it with all these people that need handholding?

1. Ganked by much higher level jerks. Crybaby? I like PvP, love to destroy a lvl22 when I'm only 20. Having a 30 kill a 20 and then again a few minutes later, and again... this demonstrates poor game design.
---- (This is only a problem for certain classes.. I've been able to successfully kill lvl 80's when my HoX was only lvl 64ish. You just have to know how to use your CC properly and unload with your highest dmg moves. If you dont have CC, try and figure out if you can spec for them, my hox imparticular has an epic stun you can spec for which changes the tables on ppl who try and gank me all the time. Also, how is FFA pvp a poor game design? If your having problems with people ganking you all you have to do is change instances when your on the rez spot.. Or, ask your fellow guildies to come help you take out some punk ass who's givin you a hard time. FFA is a new concept to most MMO'rs, but if you've played in the past, FFA was the norm for a lot of games, so this is only new to the noobs)

2. No on screen DPS.
---- (download a mod, quite a few dps mods out there... if your aware, WoW doesn't have anything like this either....)

3. Lame auction house, see wow auctioneer for details. There is aboslutely nothing interesting or innovative about the AoC economy. Its just dumb.
---- (Once again buddy, your comparing built in functionality with a mod you have to download for WoW.... Yes auctioneer kicks ass, but if this is the case why havn't they made it part of WoW?)

4. Tiny bag space.
---- (This complaint I"ll agree with you on...)

5. Cannot unequip tiny over priced bags.
--- (This is stupid, because there's NO NEED TO UNEQUIP BAGS!!!!!!!!!!!! your unable to resell them, so what's the point?!?!?!?)

6. Cannot resize screen elements like the giant quickbar and tiny minimap.
--- (Learn to do some .xml editing... i've been able to resize my elements quite well on my own.. in particular i've shrunk my user interface down by over 65% so all my buttons are quite small to maximize screen space. And i dont know *** about .xml editing... This just seems to be a problem for ppl not willing to look into things themselves...)

7. Not enough post offices.
--- (This i'll agree with, but then again I rarely have to mail stuff off, and when I do i'm gonna want to hit up the AH and bank anyways, so this works for me... at least for now)

8. Restricted addon development.
--- (This is true, but if you were following AoC from beta, you would know that they were not overly thrilled about addon support because of patch releases it just causes a whole shitload of new problems for developers to deal with.... This game was suppost to be more about personal involvement, instead of being dumb'd down so mods do almost everything for you like what has become of wow... there's so many aids that there's very little actual human interaction being done to desypher what's going on.... your just being told, and as a result can react accordingly... what fun is that... figure it out for yourself and be a true pvp'r and gamer! Think real sports, it's real time calculations the players make to determine how they are to react... think of it the same way...)

9. Lack of list mode for things like backpack, do you really think I want to mouse over every single item to see its details?
--- (I've never seen a list program... i've ALWAYS had to mouse over *** in everygame i've play'd... where have u ever seen this type of functionality??? In another mod? hmmmmm, see a common trend here?)

10. The special keypress system to attack is not an innovation, it is a stupidity which you didn't even develop properly. If the attack requires UL UL UR then show that on screen where it currently shows UL UR. Anyone who thinks this key thing is great is lying or just too stupid to be allowed to speak. Those who master the key thing are most exploiters.
--- (wow, just because you can't handle something as simple as direction recalling, then that's your problem. I personally love the keypress system. There's much more involvement from the user instead of simple auto attacks or the push of 1 button to do a move. My guess is your not spacing your attacks out properly, and your gettin too excited while in combat, your doing your keypresses WAAAAAAAAAY to quickly... resulting in a lost combo and blown cooldown... wait for the start of your swing before starting the next part of the combo. Too hard for you? ok, keep QQ'n...)

11. I've said enough
--- (can say that again!)

I dont care what people say, this has potential for being a good game. It's just not there yet. I've not been playing this as religiously as i have wow, but i'm givin myself time. I took my merry'ol time lvl'n up to 80, and I'm taking my merry'ol time with lvl'n alts and trade skills and even gettin involved with pvp. I saw from the start that the end game was not built up enough to keep people in the long run, it's not like wow where u constantly have a gear grind to go for. This end game is based around pvp, and right now there isn't much of any at all... Will there be in the future? Who knows. But hopefully all the people who are QQ'n right now drop the game, so the real players can help in the molding and development of the game by offering real advice for changes.

We have the power to help mold and shape this game into the game we all want... Why not take advantage of the situation rather than complaining?! Offer advice, give error reports. I"ve recieved several goodies from Funcom over the past 6 months for feedback i've supplied them. And every week big changes are made in patches showing that they actually care. They send out a survey for people to fill out, take those seriously and be honest in them.

The game wont fix itself by bitching, take assertive action.

The gameplay is fair enough, but the programming flaws are another matter.... It leaks memory like a wet rag leaks water, and totally crashes my computer about every 10 minutes. When I quit the game, the process is still running occupying about 80% of CPU and 1.5 Gb of memory. Sucky-Sucky.... in a bad way. If stability is not fixed soon, I'm gonna cancel as well.... as it is totally unplayable.

Oh, eh, and the graphics and mature, sexy, gory stuff was way hyped...

W.

Oh coretwo....you are still here? wtf blizzard pay you to throw mud on AoC? if you dont like it you should already be back to your WoW. We can Figure out by ourselfs if the game worth or not. i see that Funcom Always Care about us,and do things we ask. while in WoW you cannot say or demand anything,cause you only get their balls and their negativity. oh and you play WoW without Addons is really bad actually,oh and dont mention Unplayble... cause i really wanna see people in WoW to Complete the PvE content without Threatmeters,deadlyboss,heal bots,and raid frames addons.....WoW is poor alone without addons. funcom will allow Addons as soon as they sort out first the bugs and those stuffs wich sounds logical and fair enough to me. AoC isnt Perfect,but it had potential to become the best of all. need some time more..so what? besides all the people i know and quited already,gonna come back after a couple of months...so AoC isnt Dead and will not Die soon,you can *** all you want you not gonna achive anything...AoC rocks and already is almost as good as WoW..but with Huge Potential to become 200 times better than it is now...while WoW? while WoW has reach it peak long time ago... and it is matter of time to die.. the start is here. and if AoC isnt the Answer then Wathammer online,Aeon,Guild Wars2 will put the final Tomb stone on WoW. R.I.P WoW....

Eternal_Solitude

"If your having problems with people ganking you all you have to do is change instances when your on the rez spot."
Switching instances did help a bit, sometimes. Many level 1-40 key areas are so full of gankers it makes gameplay overly frustrating. It was fun teaming with everyone questing in an area, even if you all get wiped by the same guy 3x your level, you get a chance to beat him down some, good fun. When I log on at odd hours for a short time, I'm lookin for some PvE or even balanced PvP. But the truth is, kids sit out in lvl12 areas on their lvl25 toons with nothing to do but gank. But I'll get my revenge at chuck e cheeze, shoving 9yo's off video games so I can play, haha.

Ganking is so bad that REAL RP peoples would see me and ask to team again, however much they hate my lack of () around everything I said.

I played AoC on pve, pvp-rp, but mostly PVP servers.

"Or, ask your fellow guildies to come help you"

Would need a higher level to team with most of the time, or a big group. A guild would have to completely dominate 1-40 areas, post guards, etc, to eliminate the problem. It might be fun, but very hard to arrange.

My past experience, after Warcraft 1,2,3, Diablo 1,2, Sims galore....

Anarchy Online has no FFA, level-ranged PvP rocks. I missed that a lot while playing Wow on PvE.

Eve has FFA only in low security areas. You go there to make serious money at higher levels. Smart game. I quit because again their interface was so stupidly miscoded months after the super graphics update last year, bad code makes me want to puke.

WoW - Started on a pvp for a short while, it seemed ok, when I got ganked I actually spawned closer to where I was going most of the time, probably pure luck. Mostly played PvE server due to friends being on one. Wow PvP is mostly about Alliance VS Horde, a great division, separate worlds really that cross over here and there. Its a nice layout.

FFA is for games like Quake or American Army, to list just 2.... FFA in certain areas or based on levels is smart and more suitable for mmo.

2. No on screen DPS.
---- (download a mod, quite a few dps mods out there... if your aware, WoW doesn't have anything like this either....)

Not one addon had onscreen dps. I updated my mods every day sometimes more, looked on curse and several other sites, nada as of 3 weeks ago. The damage files had to be started every time you play, the addons had to be protected from AoC date-time nonsense, it is a big joke.

You can make a DPS mod for wow with xml, takes some brains and some time.
AoC on-screen DPS requires extensive Directx Knowledge!!!!

Big difference.

3. Lame auction house, see wow auctioneer for details. There is aboslutely nothing interesting or innovative about the AoC economy. Its just dumb.
---- (Once again buddy, your comparing built in functionality with a mod you have to download for WoW.... Yes auctioneer kicks ass, but if this is the case why havn't they made it part of WoW?)

I doubt auctioneer is possible in AoC. If it were, there would be basic ones already, one would grow to the complexity and godliness of Auc. From my Anarchy experience, they wont allow it.

The thing is, Wow has allowed the addon community to grow, and could incorporate some things like Auc into Wow, but why, its already there. ANY new mmo should have a good look at what it does and incorporate that into their code, even PAY Norganna to code for them, or buy some of the code.

If eBay had the AoC auction interface.... and again, why didn't the coders at Funcom look at existing auctions for cool stuff, for ideas how to code it? It seems like they ripped the old crap code from Anarchy and patched it poorly.

5. Cannot unequip tiny over priced bags.
--- (This is stupid, because there's NO NEED TO UNEQUIP BAGS!!!!!!!!!!!! your unable to resell them, so what's the point?!?!?!?)

I would like to sell the old bags, and give to lowbies.
BTW there is a nice addon that shows more squares for bag space, so you don't have to use tabs.
Of course, you shouldn't have to use tabs in the first place....

6. Cannot resize screen elements like the giant quickbar and tiny minimap.
--- (Learn to do some .xml editing... i've been able to resize my elements quite well on my own.. in particular i've shrunk my user interface down by over 65% so all my buttons are quite small to maximize screen space. And i dont know *** about .xml editing... This just seems to be a problem for ppl not willing to look into things themselves...)

I know a little coding, I don't think I should have to edit xml files. I think it should have an onscreen sizer from 0 - obnoxious sized. Wouldn't that be cool? Funcom doesn't seem to think so...

9. Lack of list mode for things like backpack, do you really think I want to mouse over every single item to see its details?
--- (I've never seen a list program... i've ALWAYS had to mouse over *** in everygame i've play'd... where have u ever seen this type of functionality??? In another mod? hmmmmm, see a common trend here?)

Yes, common trend indeed. Lack of innovation! Instead of goofy attack button 'innovation' why not break the mmo mold with a sold interface that is FUN to use, an AH with handy features... Wow doesn't come with list mode, no game does (?) but wow addons have it, Sanity being my favorite.

To make AoC a truly innovative game, Funcom would do things like listing items by their meaningful names rather than obscure and redundant icon images.

10. The special keypress system to attack is not an innovation.......
--- (wow, just because you can't handle something as simple as direction recalling.....more involvement..... guess is your not spacing your attacks out properly....doing your keypresses WAAAAAAAAAY to quickly... Too hard for you? ok, keep QQ'n...)

Having left, middle, right attack is fine, not too much involvement, kinda fun watching their defenses and hitting them where it counts more. My assasin has lots of attacks R, L, M, RR, LL, MM, RRL, LLR, LLLR, RRRL, blah.

Remember all those attacks specific key sequence? Not fun, you would have to pay me to do that.

Side note, you don't have directional attacks for casters, for those who dislike them, be a caster.

And on top of all the attack keys, you have special defense keys you can use, *that* is just too much.

And yes I hit them too fast in the beginning, took me a few days to get over that. I played long enough to get the hang of it. I didn't like special attack sequences.

And note you can use older attacks when the newer ones are cooling.....

We have the power to help mold and shape this game into the game we all want... Why not take advantage of the situation rather than complaining?!

Anarchy Online has basic interface issues, always has, after 6 or is it 7 years. It seems designed to be inconvenient. I played for 1.5 years and posted several times about things like the quick launch bar. I mentioned this in my closing statement when I quit. 8 months later, over 5 years after launch, they did something about it, and the solution they chose was not one that people had been asking for.

You are expecting things from Funcom that they have proven time and again to be incapable of.
Funcom has no common sense. They have market sense, like Eve, making amazing graphical environments and ignoring most everything else. Graphics draw crowds, sell subscriptions, and the fact that so many people will go on and on about how great it is, how innovative, when very little is really any better, and many things worse, than previous games, only hurts the growth of the mmo market.

And for those of you don't like my griping, bug off.
I hope someone somewhere will read this and posts like it and dev a cool game.
You don't make games cooler by saying they are great when they are not!

sodade21
Blizzard doesn't pay me.

In fact, I'm pretty much fed up with blizzards constant updates screwing up the addons. The Ace updater rocks, helps a lot, but I shouldn't have to update my addons just because whimsical coders at Bliz change things all the time.

cause i really wanna see people in WoW to Complete the PvE content without Threatmeters,deadlyboss,heal bots,and raid frames addons.....WoW is poor alone without addons.

And when Funcom made a new game, knowing how much wowers like those addons, shouldn't they have incorporated some of those things into AoC? All they did was make new graphics and rip the interface from a old old game called Anarchy.

What wow did many years ago has little to do with AoC today. The processing power alone to run all those addons was uncommon when wow came out, Blizzard COULDN'T have them as part of the game. They can now, but they are already made, in addons.

you can *** all you want you not gonna achive anything...
AoC rocks and already is almost as good as WoW..

Not true, see my last post.

if AoC isnt the Answer then Wathammer online,Aeon,Guild Wars2 will put the final Tomb stone on WoW. R.I.P WoW....

I'm not sure what all this anti-wow is about.
Blizzard has lead the pack for over a decade, maybe they can do it another decade, but only if they stay smart and fun.
I'm hoping Warhammer will be better than AoC in the ways I've mentioned.

I forgot to mention, Eve actually has list mode for inventory and market listings.

Microsoft has pushed icons for a long time now.
I guess because they are pretty.

But they are not good to work with, you cant sort icons by size or price or dps. Often the same or similar icon is used for the same thing.

This is just common sense stuff, something Microsoft and AoC are incapable of.

http://aoc.curse.com/downloads/details/13045/ -- mod for onscreen DPS, it overlays ontop fo AoC, similar to damage meters mod in WoW.. + has built in script to post the stats in party/guild/say whatever...

Also, about your complaining about you shouldn't have to edit stuff to get what you want.... well, cry me a river... the functionality is there, it'll just take some brainpower to figure it out on your own rather then a dumb slider which is simple enough for you to handle...

It sounds to me you'd rather sit and complain about things instead of going out there and doing them yourself...

Eternal_Solitude

Bug off. Quit making excuses for the gaming industries weak devs.

Ask one programmer to make a game and you'll wait years for him/her to complete it. Ask 100 programmers to make a game and wait years for someone to figure out a standard code for all of them to use. Programmers don't all write the same. One can say Hello in 1 line while others may take 20. Skill, desire, management of coding all play into this.

You really want to know what separates AOC from WoW? AOC can focus on game mechanics instead of the QQ in every forum by trolls saying "hunters are OP!" "warlocks are OP!" boo hoo hoo.

Don't even get me started on how WoW is no longer a PVE game and is headed toward an all-arena game system and screw PVE. Blizzard has their head up their asses and someone keeps patting them on the backs for it. Sure Funcom could do better but I see more effort in one patch then I do all year from Blizzard. How many hated the year+ of "Tauren shoulders are too small!"??? Or the warlock fear nerf. The only good thing Blizzard has done in two years is FINALLY fix the hunter range glitch.

I'm happy with AOC because I don't have to grind for hours to make enough to support crafting and raiding. 3 days of farming to craft for one and raid another. Go enjoy wow for what it is. We'll enjoy AOC for what it is to become.

I just canceled my AoC account as well. This game is really nto very good. I guess everyone has a right to their opinion but I just dont see how anyone can say this is a good game. Nothing about it is innovative or intuitive. This game was all hype and no substance IMO.

Regardign the wow "kiddies" vs the "adult" players in Aoc. Gimme a break! I have never seen such childish behavior as in AOC I would bet the average age of Aoc player is significantly lower than the average wow player. If you are really looking for an adult oriented enviroment you wont find it here. The boobs and gore make it that much more attractive to kids.

AoC has it flaws, many of them in fact, but that doesn't take anything away from its strongpoints. WoW is still alive and kicking and it will die of "old age" as one could call it.
Warhammer looks interesting, might even try it, but it lacks the uniqueness that made me buy AoC to play along with WoW.

Now, well, if this game wasn't for you, then it simply wasn't for you. Hope you'll find yourself a suiting gaming experience somewhere along the way.
As I see its potential I'll continue to subscribe to AoC and continue to play it along with WoW. I'm not really the kind to quit a game because of bugs/glitches; unless they've been going on for 5 years at least without any attempt at improvement.

This is a poor attempt to justify your 'quitting' of AoC. Good luck with all future endeavors.

This end game is based around pvp, and right now there isn't much of any at all... Will there be in the future? Who knows. But hopefully all the people who are QQ'n right now drop the game, so the real players can help in the molding and development of the game by offering real advice for changes.

You're absolutly right in another aspect: people are comparing WoW+(MASSIVE ADDONS) to AoC without any. I'm willing to bet that given some time funcom is going to have to implement a better system for scripting and addons. Until that time, I still think AoC offers a lot for players who are tired of simple item grinding.

One more thing: I also love the keypress system. I used to play text-based MUDs (from which all the graphical MMOs are derived) and the best ones were the games that didn't simply let you KILL and walk away, doing the combat for you. Being more engaged in the actual attacking in combat lets you feel more control over what actually happens. Plus: if you don't like it, you can always play a ranged or magical class, where there's little melee combat...